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re: Sen Bodi White introduces bill to increase St George sales taxes up to 2% more
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:30 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:30 pm to LSURussian
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You can keep posting the same thing over and over but it still does not say the sales tax limit is 9% which is what you claimed it said last night.
I paraphrased what the article said, and you know it.
Now you're trying to make an issue out of what I said.
You stated that White's bill would result in a 11% tax, I said it would be capped at 9% and the Nola.com article backed me up.
I posted the paragraphs that were relevant to our discussion and linked a NOLA.com article that explained the White bill far better than the Advocate article.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:30 pm to Lsupimp
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Isn't it more likely that Russian made an unintentionally wrong assertion, and that you guys corrected him?
That's kind of hard to argue since he has already doubled down on his statements.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:32 pm to doubleb
quote:In that case, you don't know what the word "paraphrase" means.
I paraphrased what the article said, and you know it.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:33 pm to hawkster
The man will never admit his error.
Hell' parse words, spin things, and change the subject; but he will never admit he was wrong.
You should know that by now.
If he had the guts he'd edit his original title to this thread, but he won't.
Hell' parse words, spin things, and change the subject; but he will never admit he was wrong.
You should know that by now.
If he had the guts he'd edit his original title to this thread, but he won't.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:33 pm to LSURussian
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I paraphrased what the article said, and you know it. In that case, you don't know what the word "paraphrase" means.
And you don't know that 9-2+2=9
That's better lol
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:34 pm to moneyg
quote:If I'm wrong, then you should be able to answer my question about SG not having access to sales taxes for up to 4 years if White's bill keeps the sales tax rate at 9% no matter what the parish does with its sales tax collections during the transition period.
That's kind of hard to argue since he has already doubled down on his statements.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:34 pm to moneyg
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That's kind of hard to argue since he has already doubled down on his statements.
I know he's not stupid, and stubbornness only goes so far, so the only explanation that I can come up with for Russian defending this thread at this point is possibly some kind of insanity or illness. Maybe it's the White Plague.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:35 pm to doubleb
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And you don't know that 9-2+2+9
That probably sounded a lot more intelligent in your head. Too bad it looks so stupid when anyone else reads it......
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:38 pm to LSURussian
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then you should be able to answer my question about SG not having access to sales taxes for up to 4 years if White's bill keeps the sales tax rate at 9% no matter what the parish does with its sales tax collections during the transition period.
I think the intent is to force EBR to continue to pay for infrastructure/debt in the newly incorporated areas without getting the associated tax revenues. This is only possible by declaring a state of emergency in the parish and forces a tax that has been voted on by the people to be replaced by a new tax that will be controlled by Bodi White's people. These people are good white state politicians so you know it'll be well spent. Expect St. George to become the next Sandy Springs, GA.
One important variable in this equation is who BR annexes.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:40 pm to doubleb
quote:Show me where I've done any of those things in this thread. You can't do it.
Hell' parse words, spin things, and change the subject;
quote:Again, you're wrong. Both times in my life when I was wrong about something, I admitted it.
but he will never admit he was wrong.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:44 pm to LSURussian
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That probably sounded a lot more intelligent in your head
Typo boom.
Small victories in a thread full of failure.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:46 pm to Asgard Device
quote:Every time I re-read White's bill I find something else. For example, the senator from senate district 6 gets to appoint whoever he wants to the SG city council until elections are held. White is the senator from district 6. What a shock!
I think the intent is to force EBR to continue to pay for infrastructure/debt in the newly incorporated areas without getting the tax revenues. This forces a tax that has been voted on by the people to be redirected towards Bodi White's group so that they can sprinkle their unicorn dust on the population and turn it into Sandy Springs, GA - while giving the rest of the parish the shaft.
But there is nothing in the bill which prohibits White from appointing himself to the SG city council. White will soon be term limited in the La. senate. Hmmm......
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:46 pm to moneyg
So, again, you can't answer my question? Stop diverting attention away from your inability to do that. Thanks.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:47 pm to LSURussian
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If I'm wrong, then you should be able to answer my question about SG not having access to sales taxes for up to 4 years if White's bill keeps the sales tax rate at 9% no matter what the parish does with its sales tax collections during the transition period.
White's bill has nothing to do with freezing sales taxes for four years. It simply creates a mechanism to TRANSFER the current municipal sales tax FROM the parish, TO the transition district, and then FROM the transition district TO the municipality.
If you had chosen to start a thread stating that White's bill does not prevent future tax hikes in SG once it is incorporated, you'd have been truthful. But stating that "Sen Bodi White introduces bill to increase St George sales taxes up to 2% more", then reinforcing your error by mentioning an 11% sales tax in the body of that OP is blatantly and inarguably wrong.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:48 pm to LSURussian
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So, again, you can't answer my question? Stop diverting attention away from your inability to do that. Thanks.
This is getting embarrassing.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:48 pm to LSURussian
Another gem is language that requires the legislature to appoint at least two of the three st George organizers to the board of directors.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 4/2/14 at 12:54 pm to Asgard Device
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I think the intent is to force EBR to continue to pay for infrastructure/debt in the newly incorporated areas without getting the associated tax revenues.
And I think the intent is to responsibly plan for a transition of services for the people of St. George from the current model with parish responsibility to the new model of a newly created city. It is obvious that a new city cannot be founded with its functions fully in place on day 1. It is mandatory that services be maintained for those citizens through a process of electing their new government and having that new government put its functions into place. I think this bill is intended to do exactly that in a revenue neutral manner.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 1:01 pm to hawkster
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And I think the intent is to responsibly plan for a transition of services for the people of St. George from the current model with parish responsibility to the new model of a newly created city. It is obvious that a new city cannot be founded with its functions fully in place on day 1. It is mandatory that services be maintained for those citizens through a process of electing their new government and having that new government put its functions into place. I think this bill is intended to do exactly that in a revenue neutral manner.
I agree, and it also provides for a transition team to set up the govt. in the event an election to incorporates is held and the vote passes.
Of course two of the regular SG opponents are trying to confuse people, throw out red herrings, and make this a debate about a tax increase or Bodi White. I think that's obvious.
Posted on 4/2/14 at 1:05 pm to LSURussian
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But there is nothing in the bill which prohibits White from appointing himself to the SG city council.
The bill does not allow White or anyone else to appoint a person to the SG city council. (Using your own tactics, I could call you a liar at this point, but I won't be that petty). The bill only authorizes appointments to the St. George Transition District, an entity that will cease to exist at the first of two clearly defined points in the development of the city of SG.
This post was edited on 4/2/14 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 4/2/14 at 1:10 pm to hawkster
quote:NOW who is parsing words? The 'transition district' IS the city council in all respects except for name until elections are held.
The bill does not allow White or anyone else to appoint a person to the SG city council. The bill only authorizes appointments to the St. George Transition District
My point stands that White can appoint himself to the city's governing board.
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