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re: SCOTUS to vote on birthright citizenship...Trump is concerned as to their ruling.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 2:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/21/26 at 2:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So we're just making shite up? That sounds productive.
He asked for your opinion without bringing 14A into equation.
You just enjoy the irritation
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 2:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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So we're just making shite up? That sounds productive.
EXACTLY!! YES!! Let's go with that. Let's just "make shite up".
Let's pretend you had no idea what I was asking, douchebag.
If YOU could write the law, would YOUR law grant citizenship to birth tourists or to illegals who crossed the border yesterday and dropped a crumb snatcher today?
You sir, are nauseating.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 2:49 pm to lsusteve1
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He asked for your opinion without bringing 14A into equation.
He wasn't specific about that, and discussing this outside of the 14A isn't productive or relevant. What is the point? All you're doing is creating dog whistles for emotional and irrelevant digressions.
This post was edited on 4/21/26 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 4/21/26 at 2:50 pm to Auburn1968
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amend the Constitution
Good luck getting 3/4 of the states to ratify that proposed amendment. Its pretty evenly split on the number of red vs blue states. Red states have slim advantage, but not nearly enough for even the 2/3 needed to formally propose an amendment, much less the 3/4 needed to ratify it.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 2:55 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Pure birthright citizenship is an awful idea. Which is probably why almost no countries do it.
We are the most powerful and wealthy country that has ever existed.
Maybe birthright citizenship is one of the reasons.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 2:56 pm to TDsngumbo
Where in the constitution does it say squat and drop makes you a citizen?
Posted on 4/21/26 at 2:57 pm to deuceiswild
Here's the pulp.
"subject to the jurisdiction thereof," as used in the 14th Amendment's Citizenship Clause, refers to individuals who owe direct and complete allegiance to the United States
"subject to the jurisdiction thereof," as used in the 14th Amendment's Citizenship Clause, refers to individuals who owe direct and complete allegiance to the United States
Posted on 4/21/26 at 2:58 pm to Melkor
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The only question is whether our SCOTUS is filled with activist outright traitors or not. If they are, they deserve a traitor's 'reward'.
We need to start seeing justice served...it's been going for decades.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 3:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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He wasn't specific about that, and discussing this outside of the 14A isn't productive or relevant. What is the point?
Seems he was
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All you're doing is creating dog whistles for emotional and irrelevant digressions.
You don’t seem to have any reservations about giving your opinion on everything else.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 3:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Congress =/= the USSC
??
No one is saying that (clearly). What is being stated is the USSC can overturn its interpretation from the past. That absolutely can happen. You seem to be saying it can't.
Posted on 4/21/26 at 3:49 pm to deltadummy
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??
I was talking about Congress exclusively
You referenced the USSC overruling precednet
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What is being stated is the USSC can overturn its interpretation from the past. That absolutely can happen. You seem to be saying it can't.
I was discussing Congress, not the USSC
Posted on 4/21/26 at 3:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I was discussing Congress, not the USSC
Dangit. I clicked back twice. Not far enough.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:56 pm to atlgamecockman
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That's why we can still arrest illegal aliens for murder.
They come under lawful jurisdiction upon arrest.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 3:00 pm to Ailsa
It’s such an easy case. The phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” clearly excludes children born in the United States to non-citizens. The Supreme Court is basically reading this language out of the amendment.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 3:01 pm to Ailsa
The liberals will vote for birthright citizenship as that is their future voting base. We needed to deport these illegals as promised
Posted on 4/22/26 at 3:35 pm to Ailsa
Get ready for 9-0 , maybe 8-1, guys
Posted on 4/22/26 at 3:37 pm to TBoy
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The Constitution’s citizenship clause applies to everyone, and is not “for illegal aliens.”
pretty much ...
Posted on 4/22/26 at 3:47 pm to shinerfan
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They come under lawful jurisdiction upon arrest.
So the pregnant women need to get themselves arrested and THEN their babies will be citizens?
Posted on 4/22/26 at 3:56 pm to Ailsa
I have always posted this since the debate began.
The Supreme Court ought to rule against executive action, but rule in away that gives Congress an out to pass legislation to clean it up or force an amendment to the constitution to clean up the language.
You can hear both side of the arguement where, the designers of the amendment implied that birth right citizenship would not include children of immigrants here illegally, but the courts have interpeted stance in many different ways over the years clouding the issue even more and pushing to the liberal interpetation that it includes everyone. Try attaining birthright citizenship in other countries especially in Europe and see if it works out for your child's citizenship in another country.
The Supreme Court ought to rule against executive action, but rule in away that gives Congress an out to pass legislation to clean it up or force an amendment to the constitution to clean up the language.
You can hear both side of the arguement where, the designers of the amendment implied that birth right citizenship would not include children of immigrants here illegally, but the courts have interpeted stance in many different ways over the years clouding the issue even more and pushing to the liberal interpetation that it includes everyone. Try attaining birthright citizenship in other countries especially in Europe and see if it works out for your child's citizenship in another country.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 4:09 pm to beaux duke
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being appointed by trump in no way requires that justices vote to support his demands
Thats not how Trump sees it.
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