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Saudi Prince Al-Faisal condemns Hamas, Israel, and the West. He comes down hard on Hamas

Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:19 pm
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29741 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:19 pm
Mario Nawfal (Arab News Video of Saudi Prince speaking on this topic

For the first time since the war broke out, a Saudi Prince has condemned not only Israel, but also Hamas, AND Western countries!

This is a significant shift in tone, signaling increased support for Israel as they prepare to enter Gaza.

TWO IMPORTANT POINTS:

1. The normalization deal between Saudi and Israel is NOT dead

2. Hamas continues to lose support, getting increasingly isolated as the Israeli army threatens to ‘eliminate’ them

Note: Saudi Prince Turki Al-Faisal does NOT speak on behalf of the Government. However he served as the head of the General Intelligence Presidency for 22 years.

KEY QUOTES:

- I categorically condemn Hamas's targeting of civilians of any age and gender. Such targeting belies Hamas's claims of Islamic identity. There is an Islamic injunction against the killing of innocent children, women, elders, and places of worship.

- I also condemn Hamas for giving the higher moral ground to the Israeli government.

- I condemn Hamas for ethnically cleansing Gaza and its citizens and bombing them into oblivion.

- I condemn Hamas for undermining the Palestinian Authority, as Israel has been doing.

- I condemn Hamas for sabotaging the attempt of Saudi Arabia to reach a peaceful resolution to the Palestinian plight.

- I condemn Israel for its indiscriminate bombing of Palestinian innocent civilians and the attempt to forcibly drive them out of Gaza.

- I condemn Israeli targeted killing and the indiscriminate arrest of children, women, and men in the West Bank.

- I condemn Israel for stealing Palestinian lands

- I condemn Israeli colonists for rampaging through houses of worship in Jerusalem

- I condemn Israel for destroying Palestinian homes and olive orchards

- I condemn Israel for incarcerating Palestinian children, women, and men in concentration camps

- I condemn Israel for targeted killings and assassinations of Palestinians

- I condemn Israel for funneling Qatari money to Hamas, a group defined as a terrorist organization by Israel

- I condemn Western politicians for shedding tears when Israelis are killed by Palestinians but refusing to express sorrow when Israelis kill Palestinians

- Two wrongs don't make a right.

- What more provocation is required, to make it provoked, than what Israel has done to Palestinian People for three quarters of a century
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 2:22 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89811 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:23 pm to
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I condemn Hamas for sabotaging the attempt of Saudi Arabia to reach a peaceful resolution to the Palestinian plight.


These frickers have like 20+ Islamic states they can go to. Including Saudi.

Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:24 pm to
Whoa.

Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14715 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:28 pm to
It would not surprise me if Saudi is funding Hamas, Obama, and the Democrat Party as well as RINOs.
They have the money to destroy Hama, if they wished.

Posted by Tmo Sabe
GA
Member since Mar 2022
978 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:32 pm to
If he apologized for 9/11 I'd take him seriously
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117588 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:33 pm to
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It would not surprise me if Saudi is funding Hamas, Obama, and the Democrat Party as well as RINOs. They have the money to destroy Hama, if they wished.


You gotta remember, their enemy is Iran. Iran openly says they will get rid of the royals in Saudi Arabia. It must be ruled by the Mullahs.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89068 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:38 pm to
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These frickers have like 20+ Islamic states they can go to. Including Saudi.


Oh, uh uh. NIMBY.

Feature the Saudis as Aunt Vivian/Uncle Phil and the Palestinians as 1/2 of North Baton Rouge wanting to move into Bel Air.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104070 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:40 pm to
Put Arafat’s face over Jazz.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
15110 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:44 pm to
Just reading the headline I agree fully.

If you treat people the way the Palestinians have been treated, you can expect something to happen eventually. Now, relentless killing of innocent civilians is unacceptable, that’s what Hamas did. Israel’s response has been retarded too.
Then potato and the abomination SOS show up fueling more issues is ridiculous too.

I think that’s the right move for Al-Faisal.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104070 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:46 pm to
Problem for the Palestinians to this point is that they have made themselves persona non grata wherever they have been because their leadership starts shite they can’t finish.

If one looks at a window to the last 30 years, Israel took some major steps toward them and was willing to make peace but Arafat started the Second Intifada instead.


Israel treats them like shite but they acted in ways that justified that treatment IMHO.
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:48 pm to
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If you treat people the way the Palestinians have been treated, you can expect something to happen eventually.

You mean by encouraging or ignoring their belligerent behavior for decades you encourage more? I agree. They should have been put in their place a long time ago.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56551 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:48 pm to
Looks like Mario needs to brush up on his history.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
15110 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 2:59 pm to
Yeah israel was attacked because they’re free. Got it.
Posted by gothamdawg
NYC
Member since Nov 2015
1394 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 3:00 pm to
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These frickers have like 20+ Islamic states they can go to. Including Saudi.


But that's their native land. Why would they leave it.
And you want them to vacate it for the transplants?

P.S. Palestinians are Christians as well.
Posted by RealityWinsOut
Member since Oct 2023
1454 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

- Two wrongs don't make a right.

Frick this dude. He essentially just laid out reasons Hamas justified their attacked. And essentially says Israelis shouldnt be there, and we shouldnt be supporting them.

Needed to keep these things separate. This terrorist attack needs to be responded too.

Talked out of both sides of his mouth and just ended up giving Hamas a pat on the back.

Dumbass putz.
Posted by RealityWinsOut
Member since Oct 2023
1454 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 3:09 pm to
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P.S. Palestinians are Christians as well.

And how many are in Gaza wanting to kill Jews?

Christian Palestinians need to condemn Hamas or idc, just like "Christians" that support "gay marriage" and abortions.
This post was edited on 10/19/23 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19326 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 3:19 pm to
One is definitely not like the other. Hamas wants a Jews dead including the ones that spans the world. Jews just want to be left alone.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23801 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

If you treat people the way the Palestinians have been treated, you can expect something to happen eventually. Now, relentless killing of innocent civilians is unacceptable, that’s what Hamas did. Israel’s response has been retarded too.
Then potato and the abomination SOS show up fueling more issues is ridiculous too.


I can't understand your or anyone that shares this view. The Palestinian's have refused land offers 5 times. They have broken peace agreements and sent suicide bombers into Israel for decades. The ONLY reason there isn't peace is due to the Palestinian's. How long do think Israel should tolerate them killing Jews, during times of peace?
People sit over here and condemn Israel, but what if YOU lived there and had been experiencing the terror?
Palestinians have had plenty of chances to broker peace.
They refuse to negotiate. They want all Jews gone, removed. That will not happen. There is no negotiating with them.
Posted by gothamdawg
NYC
Member since Nov 2015
1394 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

quote:
P.S. Palestinians are Christians as well.

And how many are in Gaza wanting to kill Jews?

Christian Palestinians need to condemn Hamas or idc, just like "Christians" that support "gay marriage" and abortions.


1. That was in reference to the comment that they (i.e. Palestinians) can move to other Islamic countries.

2. How many Settlers do you think want to kill Palestinians?

3.How do you know they are not condemning Hamas?

Just because you don't hear about something in the media, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

What Hamas did was horrific, but it wasn't first blood. What separates it is that they specifically targeted civilians.

But Israel is also guilty of civilian killings.
Just like Israel did last year in sniper shooting of Shirin Abu Akleh
Israel targeted killing to silence a journalist covering the plight of the Palestinians. This is just one example of many.

We should be upset about what Hamas did. We should also be upset about what Israel does on an ongoing basis.



Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
7647 posts
Posted on 10/19/23 at 3:33 pm to
Sounds like he hasn't picked a side which is just as bad.

Weak arse people over there and still can't distinguish between a terrible hateful culture and another.
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