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Posted on 1/12/23 at 6:24 pm to GumboPot
No worries, Brandon is sending Bradley fighting vehicles along with France sending tanks
Posted on 1/12/23 at 6:26 pm to GumboPot
Time for more billions to disappear in Kiev.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 6:27 pm to crazy4lsu
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Is your end-game some idiotic idea about how Ukraine and Russia are the same or something?
They’re all the Rus. All the PR in Washington won’t change that fact.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 6:28 pm to DesScorp
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They’re all the Rus.
Brilliant stuff.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 6:40 pm to Powerman
Insult? You two seem like you’d be good together.
Ask her out or don’t.
No fricks given either way.
Ask her out or don’t.
No fricks given either way.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 6:45 pm to GumboPot
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If Zelensky was smart he would have gave Putin assurances more than a year ago that he would not join NATO going forward and maybe form a relationship with Russia so they can live in peace. Now with Western interest involved Russia and Ukraine can never reconcile.
Right, just live in peace. After Crimea was taken over and constant battles in eastern Ukraine. Maybe just form a relationship with Russia and be buddies. Easy peasy
Posted on 1/12/23 at 6:46 pm to crazy4lsu
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Can you just get to the point of your exceedingly boring questions?
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So, our interest in the Ukraine is to weaken Russia, correct?
Okay. I'll just pose the next question and provide "MY" answer.
How long have we pursued those goals from the Ukraine?
An honest answer may be a clue as to why Russia felt cornered or threatened and "Finally" did what they did, and it might start to make sense.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 7:07 pm to LookSquirrel
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How long have we pursued those goals from the Ukraine?
As long as Russia has pursued goals of undermining the West. Do you know when that started? Russia isn't some innocent victim in this.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 7:16 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:We had that opportunity from 1993 to 2013.
Europe gives no room for China to make headway into the region
WE shirked the opportunity.
WE started war between Russia and Ukraine.
WE scuttled peace in April.
As we've established here previously.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 7:17 pm to Bunk Moreland
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He predicted the EXACT thing that happened. I guess he knew what he was talking about.
I mean after Russia's puppet and the US response in 2014, THEN the Russian invasion and seizure of Crimea...it wasn't going out on a limb to predict more Russian aggression.
Now had he predicted this pre-Georgian invasion? He'd get lots of credit.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 7:31 pm to GumboPot
It never ceases to amaze me how people can at the same time be opposed to the WEF and the globalists, yet support their meddling in Ukraine. How do you reconcile the two? 
People show their ignorance when they refer to Ukrainian sovereignty. Zelenskyy long ago gave away Ukraine's sovereignty to the WEF and the globalists.
There would have been no invasion had the globalist not set up shop on Russia's doorstep.
There would have been no invasion had NATO not continued to expand, admitting even ex-Warsaw Pact nations.
There would have been no invasion had NATO not continued the Cold War after the Soviet Union collapsed.
Someone remind me...who is supposed to be the Evil Empire? Now, let's ask ourselves who is acting like the Evil Empire?
People show their ignorance when they refer to Ukrainian sovereignty. Zelenskyy long ago gave away Ukraine's sovereignty to the WEF and the globalists.
There would have been no invasion had the globalist not set up shop on Russia's doorstep.
There would have been no invasion had NATO not continued to expand, admitting even ex-Warsaw Pact nations.
There would have been no invasion had NATO not continued the Cold War after the Soviet Union collapsed.
Someone remind me...who is supposed to be the Evil Empire? Now, let's ask ourselves who is acting like the Evil Empire?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 7:31 pm to CitizenK
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Photos are around if you know where to look. Makes a WWI battlefield look great. Masses of infantry charging and chopped up like sausage in a meat grinder
Posted on 1/12/23 at 7:44 pm to NC_Tigah
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We had that opportunity from 1993 to 2013.
I really think you are underestimating Russian agency in all this. They made choices too.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 7:45 pm to LookSquirrel
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I rest my case
Brother, you've made no case, other than to demonstrate your idealistic notions about IR.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 7:48 pm to Perfect Circle
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Someone remind me...who is supposed to be the Evil Empire? Now, let's ask ourselves who is acting like the Evil Empire?
Probably the empire who is trying to dictate what another country does by using military force.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 7:50 pm to GumboPot
best part about Ukraine getting its shite kicked in is the further discrediting of the Neocons, Neoliberals and most of all a loss in Ukraine will be the biggest pie in the face for Biden. I forgot to add in embarrassment of NATO. this in the long run will be good for America.
Just like Tywin Lannister's plan in A storm of swords. instead of fighting the Stark Army he lets the Frey decimate House Stark via the red wedding. Its called real politick.
not only that but watching leftist and neocon soyboys vagina's bleed over Ukraine is hilarious. very embarrassing.
Just like Tywin Lannister's plan in A storm of swords. instead of fighting the Stark Army he lets the Frey decimate House Stark via the red wedding. Its called real politick.
not only that but watching leftist and neocon soyboys vagina's bleed over Ukraine is hilarious. very embarrassing.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 7:52 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:I know you do. Just like the "agency" of Kyle Rittenhouse was underestimated.
I really think you are underestimating Russian agency in all this.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 7:55 pm to NC_Tigah
Lol. No, I mean the degree to which the Russians were as conciliatory as people pretend. There were factions that were conciliatory and factions that continued to be antagonistic to the West. The latter won out, and you could place blame on the West for playing some role, but also I think the pattern of how it would play out was set by the Second Chechen War.
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