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re: Russia offers $12 trillion to the US in exchange for lifting sanctions - update: Fake News
Posted on 2/18/26 at 12:50 pm to ForTheWin81
Posted on 2/18/26 at 12:50 pm to ForTheWin81
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Build 500k houses to offer young people a chance at the American dream.
You want the government to build housing for people?
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Posted on 2/18/26 at 12:50 pm to trinidadtiger
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Why on earth would we want Russia to fall? So we can have a dozen splintered factions with former Russian nukes?
Worse for China - who needs Russian energy - to have splintered states that can be pulled into a Western leaning orbit.
It is more of an opportunity than threat. Similar to the USSR splintering. Choppy waters in the 90s but on the balance was a boon for US hegemony.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 12:51 pm to BarnHater
They call you worse. You just don't speak Russian
Posted on 2/18/26 at 12:51 pm to LChama
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Take 11 trillion and pay down debt
Russia isn't offering 11T in cash.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 1:00 pm to hawgfaninc
They have sanctions for a reason. Bet no one looked them up.
Those that didn’t are all for it.
That’s how dumb we are.
Those that didn’t are all for it.
That’s how dumb we are.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 1:17 pm to trinidadtiger
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Why on earth would we want Russia to fall? So we can have a dozen splintered factions with former Russian nukes?
You're 100% correct. Russia is a weakened state, but there is an opportunity to keep them afloat enough to benefit us and them, yet not so much they become anymore of a threat, or completely fail.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 1:28 pm to Tower_Tiger12
But Trump is terrible at business ??
Posted on 2/18/26 at 1:35 pm to Diego Ricardo
Diego,
So you want Russia to splinter into pieces and let thousands of these characters (the boston bombers) come to the US.....
Bess we keep Russia in tact and let them deal with the factions.
So you want Russia to splinter into pieces and let thousands of these characters (the boston bombers) come to the US.....
quote:
Tsarnaev and Tamerlan Tsarnaev with origins in Russia's volatile North Caucasus regions—have been connected to this week's bomb attacks at the Boston Marathon. They lived, for a time, in Dagestan, which is recognized as the epicenter of the Islamic insurgency that spilled over from Chechnya.
Bess we keep Russia in tact and let them deal with the factions.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 1:40 pm to hawgfaninc
Ok. Take it and lift sanctions, provided Russia and Ukraine sign a ceasefire agreement and end the conflict.
Simple.
Simple.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 1:40 pm to hawgfaninc
They would have to sell or give us the eastern part of Russia to have any where near that much money. Russia could take bids and the US, China, Elon Musk, and Japan would go all in.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 1:48 pm to boogiewoogie1978
I'm not talking about projects.....but seeing as how one of the biggest things facing young Americans is home ownership and the fact that Supply is so low....If we were to come into money like that, which I now get it, it's not money....but increasing the supply side doesn't seem like an awful idea.....I mean it's a moot point now but would that be such a terrible thing? I mean, I remember that that was a big thing that Charlie pushed, was building a million houses to increase supply....that's all
Posted on 2/18/26 at 1:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Considering their entire GDP is a little over $2T USD, everyone should doubt this
Posted on 2/18/26 at 1:53 pm to ninthward
Yes, everyone agrees.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 1:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Considering their entire GDP is a little over $2T USD, everyone should doubt this
it's a long-term economic projection over 20-30 years that leverages future growth and sanction-lifted market access. Not to mention that Russia sits on a nice Rare Earth market that goes largely untapped without our help.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 1:56 pm to hawgfaninc
Love this. We need to be friends with Russia.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 2:01 pm to SidewalkDawg
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it's a long-term economic projection over 20-30 years
That's still going to be tough
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that leverages future growth
That's the hopium. It's stilly.
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Not to mention that Russia sits on a nice Rare Earth market that goes largely untapped without our help.
Just how much do you think we can increase their GDP over 20-30 years without causing issues?
Take 30 years and the full $12T. That's $400B/year. From an original GDP of $2-2.2T?
We just reached a $36B deal with Japan, for example, and they have double the GDP. That's what a realistic deal looks like.
Posted on 2/18/26 at 2:12 pm to SidewalkDawg
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it's a long-term economic projection over 20-30 years that leverages future growth and sanction-lifted market access. Not to mention that Russia sits on a nice Rare Earth market that goes largely untapped without our help.
Does Russia or Putin?
1. Stand by their treaties
2. Stand by their promises
3. Lie
4. Treat their allies good
5. Kill their own politicians that could make this work
Posted on 2/18/26 at 2:15 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Trump should ignore this...Russia is closer to collapse than most realize
We don’t want them to collapse. We will eventually need them to help contain Chyna. Imagine post Ukraine us doing trade with Russia. Would help both plus keep them from falling onto Chynas lap
This post was edited on 2/18/26 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 2/18/26 at 3:46 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 2/18/26 at 4:02 pm to ForTheWin81
quote:You realize how detached from basic reality you have to be to even believe for a second that Russia has 12 trillion in cash, much less could offer it to us? Russia’s entire annual GDP is roughly 2.5 trillion dollars. Twelve trillion is four to five times the total economic output of the whole country in a year. Not profits. Not spare cash. Total output. Everything. Oil, gas, agriculture, weapons, tech, all of it combined.
Take it! Pay debt! Build 500k houses to offer young people a chance at the American dream. Give tax payers a refund..
That would be like the U.S. offering north of 100 trillion dollars in a lump payment. It is not just unlikely. It is structurally impossible without detonating the ruble, collapsing their financial system, and triggering hyperinflation. Governments do not have giant Scrooge McDuck vaults filled with multiple years of GDP sitting around.
Even sovereign wealth funds and foreign reserves are nowhere near that scale. Russia’s total foreign currency reserves are measured in the hundreds of billions, not tens of trillions.
This board never stops blowing my mind.
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