re: RFK Jr on vaccines and the low autism rates in the Amish community

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Or maybe people also wanted to keep him quiet.

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No.

It was fraud.

There is no conspiracy.

If I remember correctly, I believe there is a higher chance of autism and other neuro disorders occuring the later in life a woman has a child. Thus the correlation of later life pregnancies and advanced degrees I'm sure is quite high, whether it be for career or educational reasons. Also early life pregnancies are more common amongst the Amish communities, so less likely to a child with autism. Not trying to refute vaccines any one way. I think some are good and some aren't proven yet

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I believe there is a higher chance of autism and other neuro disorders occuring the later in life a woman has a child. Thus the correlation of later life pregnancies and advanced degrees I'm sure is quite high, whether it be for career or educational reasons. Also early life pregnancies are more common amongst the Amish communities, so less likely to a child with autism

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Yea that's a very good point.

An interesting set of data would be autism rates in the south where women tend to have children at a younger age vs a blue state like Cali or NY.

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An interesting set of data would be autism rates in the south where women tend to have children at a younger age vs a blue state like Cali or NY.

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I imagine the SES tracks harder than the age.

Higher SES = more likely to have insurance, to have children tested, to understand what autism is to look for it, to see early social/academic gaps, etc.

About the Amish (not SES), the Amish have a traditional, hierarchal society that relies primarily on manual labor. I imagine all sorts of psychological issues aren't really monitored/evaluated in their population. And by the time they marry, have kids, etc., they're quite occupied. And their worldview isn't really a big picture one and is much more grounded/tactile.

Heavily processed food is straight terrible for you. Eating right takes work and discipline (ie it’s hard). People tend to take the easy instant gratification route.

Personally speaking, one of my kids had what I would deem a vaccine complication after round of vaccines at 1yr. He had a high fever for a few days and he had a cabbage ball size raised welp at the injection site. Though he isn’t on the spectrum so to speak he has behavioral and social “issues”. Did the vaccine injure him? IDK?

Not solid evidence unless the study controlled for all variables. There is plenty of evidence that reveals no link between vaccines and autism.

Man, you guys have a real preoccupation about vaccines ( one of the greatest medical breakthroughs of
The last two centuries).

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Like I said earlier though, I strongly believe that all the terrible foods Americans consume are probably the biggest culprit.

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Yes the food is a pretty good point. The Amish are growing their own food and without a lot of the modern pesticides and fertilizers.

My grandparents and all of their siblings lived or are currently alive well into their 80s. They grew up poor and even when they made a good living one trait they all shared was they raised their own beef, chickens, and gardens. Several of them smoked and drank yet didn't have many health complications and died of normal circumstances someone nearing 90 dies of. I always think of that vs the processed foods we all eat today.

This is a fascinating topic. I believe autism is real and has been around long before vaccines. People who suffered with this condition decades ago were simply undiagnosed or categorized as retarded. There were large programs for these people in the 60's and 70's (like the one featured in the documentary about the Yuba County Five). I believe most of the "cases" of ADD, ADHD, Dyslexia, etc. were for the most part all there in previous decades too. Parents just dealt with these problems as any parent with a challenging child would. I think the world was also much better structured for children like this back then too... heathier food, more active play, more social stigma and bullying, less electronics, less fatherlessness, less medication, etc. Many modern parents are also frick heads. Rather than accept that their child is rambunctious or not an above average student, they want a "medical diagnoses" to explain away that behavior - and those are very easy to get.

That said, I don't believe all of this explains the explosion in autism and chronic disease in this country. RFK picks on vaccines and he may be right. But the world has changed so much in many other ways since then, that it could be anything.

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I also used to think Jenny McCarthy was crazy for blaming the vaccines on her son's autism but I recall her saying how she saw the change immediately

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Pretty sure there was a point when most of us as individuals thought the "conspiracy theorists" were complete wack jobs.

Then, like myself, most of us actually started paying attention to not only what the establishment media is saying, but also what they're not saying, and realized that the "conspiracy theorists" are batting about .800 and the mainstream government-funded scientists are paid to reinforce propaganda and narratives.

At this juncture in time, due to the blatant lies I've seen forced down the throats of the public at large, I'm automatically inclined to believe the exact opposite of what the government and mainstream media are telling me.

It has come out in courts that the alphabet agencies, from CDC, FDA. WHO, cannot be trusted. They get their palms greased to pass faulty medical devices and drugs.

How can anyone trust their immunizing pushes?

I used to also think Jenny McCarthy was nuts. I had no idea her baby son was fine and then autistic after immunization's.

I see the media presented her and RFKJ as nuts...