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RFK Jr. admits his internal polling indicates his independent run hurts DJT the most.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:18 am
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:18 am
Robert Kennedy Jr Admits His Campaign Has Done Polling on Running Independent and He Takes More General Election Votes from Donald Trump Than Joe Biden
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Shortly before RFK Jr stated that he would be announcing a run for president as an independent candidate, he appeared on a podcast to discuss the possibility of leaving the Democrat ticket. {Rumble Link Here} Mr Kennedy said his campaign had done research on the impact to the 2024 race if he ran as an independent.
Within the interview RFK Jr shares that his private polling reveals he takes more votes from Donald Trump than he does from Joe Biden. Thus, having seeded the background for favorable republican support, running as an independent now becomes the most effective way to stop Trump.
In case you are coming in late to this story, what RFK Jr outlines is exactly what I shared earlier. {Go Deep}
With his son’s wife working for the CIA, the strategic influence operation becomes much easier. The principal doesn’t need to be an active participant in the op in order to benefit the goal. RFK Jr sees his impact against Donald Trump in 2024 as a net positive. There’s the justification in a nutshell.
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”Reset your reference point to the baseline where the intelligence operatives do not want you to be. When someone starts asking the question about RFK Jr. taking votes from Biden, stop them immediately. Joe Biden will not be the nominee. With Gavin Newsom as the DNC candidate coming out of Chicago, what does RFK Jr. do to THAT contest with Trump? That’s the question.
You all know the answer.
This is an op.”
This is all about stopping Donald Trump.
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Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:20 am to GumboPot
No shite. That's probably been his role all along. To get the moderates...
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:22 am to GumboPot
At first blush it seems surprising, but I think he is polling +30 with Republicans and -43 with Democrats. All the pimping of him by the cavalcade of "conservative" media personalities backfired.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:23 am to GumboPot
Yeah what a surprise that the senile old loser has the same base as trump and his epstein-living goons. Obviously no one with half a brain would vote for either, son.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:25 am to GumboPot
I dont get where this Democrat base is for RFK? Its mostly what you would call the "old school" Dems who have already largely left the party. How could you go from supporting someone like Biden to RFK? I don't see the crossover.
More than likely, I could see people who would vote for Trump (lesser of 2 evils), and instead voting for RFK instead.
More than likely, I could see people who would vote for Trump (lesser of 2 evils), and instead voting for RFK instead.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:26 am to robinette
Thats amazinf first post alter bot
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:26 am to bamabonners
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No shite. That's probably been his role all along. To get the moderates.
It seems a lot of people believe it's the opposite. That an RFK independent run hurts Biden.
I'm hoping RFK's internal polling is a national sample with a heavy Northeast skew and not necessarily a sample of WI, GA and AZ. I could certainly see RFK pulling more Trump leaning voters from Trump in the Northeast but outside the Northeast that voting pattern may not follow. At a more granular state level where it matters RFK's independent run might help Trump in states like WI, GA and AZ.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:27 am to robinette
Would someone with any part of a brain vote for a dementia Addled fool?
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:27 am to burger bearcat
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I dont get where this Democrat base is for RFK? Its mostly what you would call the "old school" Dems who have already largely left the party. How could you go from supporting someone like Biden to RFK? I don't see the crossover.
The polling indicates that they do not support him at all. Most of RFK's support is from the right and moderate Indys.
He is polling horrifically among actual Dems.
Dems are an NPC hive mind that only recognize routes to power, and RFK is an obstacle.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:27 am to Fun Bunch
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At first blush it seems surprising, but I think he is polling +30 with Republicans and -43 with Democrats.
+30 and -43 relative to what?
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:28 am to robinette
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Yeah what a surprise that the senile old loser has the same base as trump and his epstein-living goons. Obviously no one with half a brain would vote for either, son.
Garland, I'm not your son.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:29 am to GumboPot
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+30 and -43 relative to what?
Just to be honest, I have no idea. I did not look at the breakdown of an actual poll, I just saw two Conservatives on twitter talking about the same numbers, and I did not dive deeper because I have a lot going on right now and just sorta glanced at the RFK stuff
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:30 am to GumboPot
Yeah, big surprise that he hurts Trump the democrat running in the R party more than Biden the democrat running in the D party. Yeah, huge surprise.
Trump is a loser in 2024 no matter who runs.
Trump is a loser in 2024 no matter who runs.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:32 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:33 am to GumboPot
It is possible, but I really don't see RFK pulling many Trump or die hard Biden communists.
The biggest issue is election integrity and stopping election fraud.
The biggest issue is election integrity and stopping election fraud.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:36 am to GhostOfFreedom
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It is possible, but I really don't see RFK pulling many Trump or die hard Biden communists.
THose aren't the people that win or lose elections.
The vast middle is.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:39 am to GhostOfFreedom
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It is possible, but I really don't see RFK pulling many Trump or die hard Biden communists.
My hypothesis is that RFK hurts Trump in the Northeast the most. PA is gone for Trump with RFK in the race.
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The biggest issue is election integrity and stopping election fraud.
Trump has to not only beat the Dem candidate (probably Gavin) but he also has to overcome the margin of fraud. It's a tall task because the RNC and GOP establishment are not helping at all unlike the Dems and the DC administrative state who are all in defeating Trump. They behave as if their livelihoods depend on a Trump defeat.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:42 am to GumboPot
If a devout liberal (who's only meaningful conservative claim to fame is vax paranoia) peels off Republican votes and gives the election to Newsom. Then you'll know for sure how much issues like abortion and the 2nd Amendment really mean to conservatives in this country.
All you folks who are actually tossing off to this guy, consider this. Kennedy is antithetical to almost every conservative principle you stand for and it's pathetic that Conservativism would allow a so called classic liberal to give the White House to a balls out progressive like Gavin Newsom.
Vax and CIA paranoia aren't platforms. They're positions on issues.
All you folks who are actually tossing off to this guy, consider this. Kennedy is antithetical to almost every conservative principle you stand for and it's pathetic that Conservativism would allow a so called classic liberal to give the White House to a balls out progressive like Gavin Newsom.
Vax and CIA paranoia aren't platforms. They're positions on issues.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:42 am to GumboPot
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RFK Jr. admits his internal polling indicates his independent run hurts DJT the most.
Of course it does.
Democrats pull the D lever, no matter who the candidate.
This post was edited on 10/2/23 at 9:14 am
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