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re: Review of 50–60 million voter records revealed thousands of ineligible and outdated
Posted on 3/23/26 at 11:04 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/23/26 at 11:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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The numbers aren't really good for the muh steal argument.
Nobody knows what the real numbers are. The system in place - from registration to voting - doesn't allow for the real numbers to be known. Fraudulent voting could be negligible or it could be massive, nobody can say. And that's the overriding point here - what's wrong with doing things logically? Why not require proof of citizenship upon registration, and ID upon voting?
Seriously, what's wrong with that?
That simple logic is so difficult here is the most compelling argument for there being a lot of fraud involved. If there wasn't, or if the opportunities for it weren't important, proof of citizenship and voter ID would not be contentious.
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Posted on 3/23/26 at 11:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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What is wrong with legal registration of citizens eligible to vote?
Oh for goodness sake
the more important question is what is wrong with registering people who are ineligible to vote?
THAT is ALL this is about - every OTHER gdam comment is a diversion from the actual problem and emphasizes your insistence introducing bogus arguments.
But to dismiss straw arguments wrt MY opinions
I AM OK with some folks not being able to vote IF
- they have never taken the initiative to register to vote -
OR
- they didn't care to burden themselves with going to the polls on election day
OR
- they had no idea that an election was being held
OR
- they had no understanding of any issue on the ballot
OR
- any other mishap that prevented them from getting to the polls.
YES - there will be instances of some person actually - thru no real fault of their own - not getting a chance to vote - THAT happens with EVERY GD LIFE CHOICE that has EVER BEEN MADE in the history of the world
PERFECTION is out of our grasp.
Under the false notion of "we want anyone who can vote be able to make sure someone takes action to see that we DO get our vote in"
YOU are willing to accept the CERTAINTY that there will be a number of ILLEGAL voters casting ballots - AND you know that unscrupulous election workers will have a free hand to MANUFACTURE ballots.
You have NO substantial argument in rebuttal - All you have is "whutaboutisms"
Posted on 3/23/26 at 11:27 am to ChineseBandit58
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the more important question is what is wrong with registering people who are ineligible to vote?
What does this question have to do with this statement you just made
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This bullshite ERIC endeavor you cited was nothing more than more than window dressing at best and at worst was another way to fund yet another 'outreach' by the democrat activists to load up the registration rolls with more fodder for there "ballot harvesters" to gather up.
?
Are you alleging ERIC was prompting registration of ineligible voters? Can you provide sourcing to this?
Or are you just rambling?
quote:
PERFECTION is out of our grasp.
I agree, but I apply this to the voter fraud scenario, too, and you don't seem to want to.
quote:
YOU are willing to accept the CERTAINTY that there will be a number of ILLEGAL voters casting ballots - AND you know that unscrupulous election workers will have a free hand to MANUFACTURE ballots.
Perfection is out of our grasp
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:33 pm to AGGIES
Tens of thousands can range from .0002 to roughly .002. If .0002 you are talking about a half of a half percent. In raw numbers, 200 votes cast in each state to 2000 votes cast in each state on average.
Illegal aliens voting in large numbers though has never been proven.
There are very few on the rolls as percentage. Less than a half of a half percent under the most liberal interpretation of the numbers given.....only # given by Gateway via Dillon was 300K of the residents of cemeteries and 50 to 60 million cast and a vague "tens of thousands"
"If my grandfather were alive, he'd vote for ..........."
Illegal aliens voting in large numbers though has never been proven.
There are very few on the rolls as percentage. Less than a half of a half percent under the most liberal interpretation of the numbers given.....only # given by Gateway via Dillon was 300K of the residents of cemeteries and 50 to 60 million cast and a vague "tens of thousands"
"If my grandfather were alive, he'd vote for ..........."
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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numbers aren't really good for the muh steal argument. People who are ignorant see "thousands" and think its a big number
Some critical areas were lost by thousands, at most. Some less.
It all matters. But dont you find it odd, that 99% of the issues are democratic voters
Posted on 3/23/26 at 12:41 pm to KiwiHead
Absence of proof is not proof of absence. Science 101.
quote:
Tens of thousands can range from .0002 to roughly .002. If .0002 you are talking about a half of a half percent. In raw numbers, 200 votes cast in each state to 2000 votes cast in each state on average.
Illegal aliens voting in large numbers though has never been proven.
There are very few on the rolls as percentage. Less than a half of a half percent under the most liberal interpretation of the numbers given.....only # given by Gateway via Dillon was 300K of the residents of cemeteries and 50 to 60 million cast and a vague "tens of thousands"
"If my grandfather were alive, he'd vote for ..........."
Posted on 3/23/26 at 4:50 pm to KiwiHead
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There are very few on the rolls as percentage. Less than a half of a half percent under the most liberal interpretation of the numbers given.....only # given by Gateway via Dillon was 300K of the residents of cemeteries and 50 to 60 million cast and a vague "tens of thousands"
Explain how it can possibly be known how many non-citizens have been registered to vote. I don't think it's even possible, so all the "numbers" anyone can cite are contrived, and likely from a political point of view.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 4:53 pm to loogaroo
quote:Those are NOT great numbers. Hundreds of thousands ... Yeah
The review of 50–60 million voter records has revealed there are thousands...
Posted on 3/23/26 at 4:55 pm to loogaroo
So hypothetically, lets say it's 5000 out of 60 million. You're worried about something that is .00083 percent of the total voter roll? Again I highly doubt they even found thousands, but do you realize how insane you all sound with this voter fraud nonsense?
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:16 pm to Bonkers119
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So hypothetically, lets say it's 5000 out of 60 million. You're worried about something that is .00083 percent of the total voter roll?
Why 5000? Why not 500,000? Why not a million. Or two?
Nobody f'n knows, one way or the other.
What is wrong with requiring proof of citizenship upon registration and ID upon voting? Seriously, what's the problem with that?
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:17 pm to VoxDawg
It makes zero sense that Trump could go from all the 2020 Covid election changes with mass mail in ballots being allowed to winning big in 2024. What changed? Only the rules, lol. The 2024 election was more typical than the 2020 fiasco.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:47 pm to David_DJS
I'm using their own numbers......or lack thereof. Dillon never specified the exact amount nationwide, on ly that it is in the tens of thousands.....is it 10,000? Is it 99,999 or somewhere in between? Have they voted is there a record of them voting? How much of a percentage of illegals found registered actually have voted and what is the distribution (what states)
300,000 people either dead or registered in 2 places sounds kind of low even with 60 million voters collected. Plus I would tell you that this is something that registrars have been fighting for 50 years or more aside from the boogeyman of illegals voting which HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN to be anywhere near widespread in either GA or AZ much less CA.....or any place else. GA has had photo ID requirements for a while and AZ has a pretty strict non photo id rule as well.
300,000 people either dead or registered in 2 places sounds kind of low even with 60 million voters collected. Plus I would tell you that this is something that registrars have been fighting for 50 years or more aside from the boogeyman of illegals voting which HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN to be anywhere near widespread in either GA or AZ much less CA.....or any place else. GA has had photo ID requirements for a while and AZ has a pretty strict non photo id rule as well.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:49 pm to Jimmy Russel
No one is saying proof of absence. The question is whether the proof is anywhere significant and constitutes a real problem.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 5:49 pm to loogaroo
"some of them" out of thousands out of 60 million sounds statistically irrelevant. Obviously, we should reduce fraud to as close to zero as possible and charge offenders, but they're being intentionally vague because they know the amount of fraud is minuscule and had zero impact on the results.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:00 pm to Sofaking2
There were a great many states, Georgia included, who took deliberate effort after the thermonuclear shite show that was the 2020 election to tighten up their state laws regarding elections, mail-in ballots, etc.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:04 pm to KiwiHead
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No one is saying proof of absence. The question is whether the proof is anywhere significant and constitutes a real problem
Congratulations! You did the meme!
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:13 pm to loogaroo
My guess was 53 million real votes, max for Biden. Wonder how far off I was?
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:24 pm to KiwiHead
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GA has had photo ID requirements for a while and AZ has a pretty strict non photo id rule as well.
It is illegal in every state to require proof of citizenship when registering for federal elections. Any discussion of election integrity starts with that.
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How much of a percentage of illegals found registered actually have voted and what is the distribution (what states)
How can this be known? I mean, in a practical sense - say we've got 100K non-citizens registered to vote in Arizona. For argument's sake, let's say 20K of them voted. How would this be discovered?
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:29 pm to VoxDawg
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Congratulations! You did the meme!
This only works with dishonesty. Any rational person knows there is a MOE in elections.
You thinking people who understand this concept are part of that meme is on brand for you, though. Not a deep thinker or particularly educated on issues.
Posted on 3/23/26 at 6:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
ID needed to vote. Fukk you!
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