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re: “Republican” blocks transgender bill in La Lege

Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:13 am to
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:13 am to
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It is a representative democracy. He votes as he thinks best. If his constituents disagree enough, they replace him. Louisiana does not run its legislature like a New England town hall, polling every voter on every bill.


No shite. But do you honestly think a Republican elected rep didn't already know 1000% his voters would want him to vote against a youth transgender transition bill?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:14 am to
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Why would you trust studies considering the political pressures and profit at play?


The more money at stake, the more likely the studies are corrupt.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:15 am to
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Hypothetical question and hypothetical answer, moron.


You are flailing now.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63024 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:42 am to
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Yeah that's a stretch for me as well. But if thats what they wanna do and they are a consenting adult, not my problem.



This thread is not about adults. Quit moving the goalposts.

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I believe care by professionals is the best chance some of these kids have of deciding that the problem isnt that rhey are the "wrong gender"



You should have said "mental health care by mental health professionals". "Care by professionals" is waaaay to general and includes the group of people pushing the gender transition treatment to minors. I suspect you knew that and were trying to sneak that in.

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Medication treatments while going through therapy and counciling can convince them that the problem isnt theie genitals. Whereas if you take that away they will be more likely to just countdown til they are 18 and then immediately elect to get surgery.



Way too general again (I know it's intentional) "Medication Treatments" should not be puberty blockers or Testosterone for girls. WTF is wrong with you?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:50 am to
What percentage of males put on puberty blockers as adolescents are impotent as adults?
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7795 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:50 am to
Slippery slopes happen. Sometimes you have to vote on principles, of which this joker apparently lacks.
This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 9:52 am
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
16104 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:51 am to
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This thread is not about adults. Quit moving the goalposts.


You are the one that brought up changing from boys to girls. That has only been done to adults in Louisiana. There have been 0 surgeries to change the sex of a minor.

Which is why I keep using the term medical treatment. The only treatments performed on minors in Louisiana are non-surgical.
This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 9:53 am
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7795 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:52 am to
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This is another fail by La. That Republican was bought off….


He's a pharmacist too, of course he was bought. Big Pharma wins again.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63024 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 3:46 pm to
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You are the one that brought up changing from boys to girls.


I did no such thing. I said:

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I don’t believe boys with gender issues are actually girls. I’m not a moron.


You are all over the place.

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Which is why I keep using the term medical treatment. The only treatments performed on minors in Louisiana are non-surgical.


Drawing the line at surgical is the wrong place to draw the line. However, certainly no surgical procedure should be allowed.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 4:00 pm to
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You are flailing now.
Do you ever take your schtick on the road, to a place where your minority views are NOT supported by 95% of the posters?
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26622 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 4:03 pm to
This seems to happen more than it should. Wasnt there another bill recently with trans sports where a few Republicans no showed?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 4:04 pm to
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It is a representative democracy. He votes as he thinks best. If his constituents disagree enough, they replace him. Louisiana does not run its legislature like a New England town hall, polling every voter on every bill.
No shite. But do you honestly think a Republican elected rep didn't already know 1000% his voters would want him to vote against a youth transgender transition bill?
If he were running again, he may not have done this. If he had, I suspect that he would have calculated that the advantages of incumbency would offset the handful of one-issue Yahoos for whom this vote would have been a deal-killer.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 7:40 pm to
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because this law doesn't just prevent surgeries, it prevents all treatment.

if they rewrite it to only prevent surgeries i'm all for it.


Puberty blockers are chemical castrations. It's just as catastrophic and permanent as lopping it all off and inverting it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 7:46 pm to
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It's just as catastrophic and permanent as lopping it all off and inverting it.


I’ll ask again for funsies for anyone who wants to take a crack at it.

What percentage of boys who start puberty blockers as adolescents are impotent as adults?
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 7:52 pm to
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No one killed anyone else in Louisiana until murder was codified as a felony.


Dang Hank. Didn't expect that one to get you. This was an easy statement to make but it stumped you lol.

If it's law then legal action can be taken. If it's not law then..?

So let's just have a law on the books for when we have an instance to prosecute. Or let's have the law to prevent the first.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128778 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 7:56 pm to
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Dr. Marci Bowers, a vaginoplasty surgeon who herself transitioned when she was 38, spoke recently at a virtual conference hosted by Duke University. “Every single child or adolescent who was truly blocked at Tanner Stage 2 [when hormones begin their work of advancing a child to adulthood] has never experienced orgasm. I mean, it’s really about zero.”


LINK

Sounds very compassionate.
Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:35 pm to
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What percentage of boys who start puberty blockers as adolescents are impotent as adults?


I was referring to the bone density side effects, but yeah, fertility and sexual function too. Especially if the blockers are used with hormone therapy.

Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:57 pm to
Freddy Mills… the most blatantly closeted fig and phony “Republican” in the whole Louisiana Legislature. What an a-hole.
Posted by RedCali714
Costa Mesa, California
Member since Oct 2022
2027 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:59 pm to
He threw his good pal JBE a bone. Guarantee you JBE promised to help him with something after Mills is out of office.
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10673 posts
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:00 pm to
People should boycott his pharmacy and bank.
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