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Remember - Fed Policies Doubled the Actual Price of Cybertruck, Not the Free Market

Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:26 pm
Posted by RFK
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:26 pm
Tesla’s Cybertruck was unveiled in 2019 with a $40k starting target.

The Cybertruck’s real-world pricing once actually available was an average of $92K per truck.

It was introduced during Trump’s first term. Large-scale fiscal stimulus and monetary accommodation 2020 - 2021 (under both the Trump and early Biden administrations) contributed to the later inflation that raised material and labor costs.

When the government tries to “fix” the economy, it is certain to fail.

Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
7960 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:29 pm to
Trump cut EV subsidies.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
4523 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:30 pm to
Irony at its finest lol yet you support politicians who openly advocate for government control. You are a first class dumbass of epic proportions
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
85246 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:31 pm to
One of the big ticket affordability items is the cost of a house and it’s commonly cited by young voters.

Setting aside interest rates, regulations have caused massive increases.

There is no reason an A/C system should be $20,000+, but thanks to leftists and the EPA here we are.

Regulations are hidden taxes.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
95944 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:32 pm to
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You are a first class dumbass of epic proportions


he always has been and he has no shame proving he is a clown dem
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
185916 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:33 pm to
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When the government tries to “fix” the economy, it is certain to fail.


No one will disagree here but FYI, a large part of the increase in the price was due to manufacturing hurdles. Tesla underestimated the challenges of working with a stainless steel exoskeleton, which required new factory methods to shape.

Also, the batteries were in shorter supply than when the initial price was announced, driving up costs. Basically, Tesla underestimated how fast battery production could scale.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
177038 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:35 pm to
This is also a misunderstanding of Tesla's business model. When they roll out a new vehicle they often roll out the most highly capable and most expensive version of that vehicle first. The "cheaper" option will be available later in the production life cycle.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
185916 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:36 pm to
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Trump cut EV subsidies.


Dumb

Had nothing to do with the MSRP.

Cutting the subsidies might hurt sales volume, but the federal government was never writing direct subsidy checks to Tesla to lower the retail price of its vehicles.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
177038 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:38 pm to
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Dumb

Had nothing to do with the MSRP.

Yeah

Not to mention the subsidy was ~7500 and wouldn't come close to explaining the gap in the first place

Maybe the bigger lesson here is don't take Elon on his word about pricing and timelines of product availability
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
7960 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:38 pm to
No subsidies company has to compensate. Hence why Elon had a tizzy and said Trump was in the files.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
177038 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:40 pm to
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No subsidies company has to compensate. Hence why Elon had a tizzy and said Trump was in the files.

This was the argument by the dumbest of MAGA then and it's the argument of the dumbest of MAGA now. Elon publicly supported ending all EV subsidies before Trump was even formally announced he was running again.

Sometimes it's best to just learn something, take the L and move on. You'll sound next stupid next time.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
7960 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:41 pm to
Why would he support a credit that floats his company and an incentive to buy?
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
4106 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:43 pm to
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This is also a misunderstanding of Tesla's business model. When they roll out a new vehicle they often roll out the most highly capable and most expensive version of that vehicle first. The "cheaper" option will be available later in the production life cycle.


True, and I give Elon credit for that... let the uber-wealthy pay a lot for toys, and use that revenue to work your way down to something for regular folks. I admired him for that approach.

The problem with the cybertruck is... it did not fit the Tesla customer base. I'm convinced this was his Mars colony buggy, really, that's what he was trying to build up. But Tesla people were not truck people... and truck people were not Tesla people (and it's useless as a work truck, as lots of truck workers rushed to point out). Then his political activity turned off his core customers, anyway... and the cyber truck became the visible representative of all that...
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
185916 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:51 pm to
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No subsidies company has to compensate



I think you have EV tax credits for consumers confused with regulatory credits

If a grocery store stops accepting a manufacturer's coupon, the store doesn’t have to pay anyone back or lower its prices. The customer just has to pay full price for the item.

That's EV tax credits. It has zero bearing on the MSRP
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
7960 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:54 pm to
I’m speaking on the individual consumer tax credit. The tax credit went away so less people were buying them. They didn’t get hurt as bad as the rest of the industry only because they have the other vehicles but they still took a hit when the consumer tax credit went away.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
185916 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 12:57 pm to
I said that already earlier but that still has no bearing on the MSRP
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
76906 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 1:00 pm to
do you try to be as disingenuous as possible with every post?
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
3492 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 1:58 pm to
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do you try to be as disingenuous as possible with every post?
Where am I disingenuous?

These are simple, verifiable facts.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18455 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 2:04 pm to
Get Elon’s nuts out your mouth. He is well passed his prime and has turned into the worlds biggest grifter
Posted by RFK
Mar-a-Lago
Member since May 2012
3492 posts
Posted on 11/6/26 at 2:06 pm to
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Couldn’t agree more.
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