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re: Religious Leaders Told to 'Prepare Now' for UFO Disclosure and 'Bible-Changing' Revelation
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:37 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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It does make the Bible a major issue, though
ok. And, how do you react when you hear an opinion like SallysHuman that it wouldn't change anything about her impression of the Bible.
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opens up the door for justifications for religions like Islam and Mormonism, because, effectively, lots of important stuff apparently can be left out of the Bible
It really seems like you are operating from a huge and obvious false premise that the Bible is inclusive of all scientific details. Are you of the understanding that the Bible is meant to be read literally with respect to the story of creation, for example?
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:42 am to Powerman
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if the Bible is supposed to be some complete work of truth about the universe why would it completely omit the rest of life in the universe?
The Bible is supposed to be a "complete work of truth about the universe"?
Where did you get that from?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:43 am to SallysHuman
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No alien revelation would change how I understand my Bible.
So far as Genesis Creation Narrative... some Christians take it literally, most take it a little less so anyway.
Literal interpretation is a modern phenomenon. No older than 250 years.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:43 am to RollTide1987
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There is nothing incompatible with Christianity and there being intelligent life on other planets.
I maintain this.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:44 am to JPLSU1981
This is a much deeper conversation than can be had on a message forum, But in short, God didn't create you to be more inclined to be based in facts/science/math/proof/etc. God created you out of love so that you might have union with him.
The stain of original sin has allowed those other things you mentioned. As unfortunate as this may sound, needing or requiring your belief in God to be based in facts/science/math/proof/etc is rooted in the sin of pride.
God asks us to be good and faithful servants. Faith cannot not exist with undeniable proof. If that makes sense.
The stain of original sin has allowed those other things you mentioned. As unfortunate as this may sound, needing or requiring your belief in God to be based in facts/science/math/proof/etc is rooted in the sin of pride.
God asks us to be good and faithful servants. Faith cannot not exist with undeniable proof. If that makes sense.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's kind of a big deal to leave out.
I don't think so...at all.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:45 am to moneyg
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The Bible is supposed to be a "complete work of truth about the universe"?
Where did you get that from?
Seems sort of implied. The creator of all things would also have created the rest of the universe right?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:45 am to Powerman
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I can't say whether or not there is a God
But it's pretty likely that whatever specific notions you might have about what God is like are completely off base
Fair, if we were just guessing, we’d definitely be off base.But Catholics believe we aren't guessing; we're responding to an event. If the Resurrection actually happened in history, then God didn't leave us in the dark. He showed up and introduced Himself. Our faith isn't built on our own "notions," but on the evidence of the Apostles who saw him alive and were willing to die for it.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:45 am to JPLSU1981
All the atoms that make up the matter of the universe, where did they come from? They had to be caused to come into existence at some point. And one step further, what/who caused the matter to exist has to have always existed.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:46 am to aubie101
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But Catholics believe we aren't guessing
That's pretty silly...because you're definitely guessing
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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So it's just a coincidence that the Bible and God's story is human-based, up to and including Jesus's story?
what?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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Do you believe that your concept of Christianity can survive an alien race having the real Jesus/son of God, and the one here being an imposter?
what?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:49 am to moneyg
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what?
You don't consider the Bible to be human-based?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:50 am to moneyg
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what?
Just a thought experiment on the significance of leaving out incredibly important things from the Bible and where that can lead.
It's refined a bit a page or so later.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:51 am to AlterEd
Basically what they're telling pastors and priests is to come up with some new bullshite to explain the alien stuff to their congregations so people don't just up and become non-religious and frick up the world by running amuck.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:52 am to SallysHuman
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No alien revelation would change how I understand my Bible.
Man cannot discover nor disclose the things that God keeps hidden.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:53 am to Powerman
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That's pretty silly...because you're definitely guessing
It’s not a guess when people die for it.Scared fishermen don't invent a lie and then volunteer to be tortured and executed for it. They didn't have a "feeling",they had a man standing in front of them who was dead three days prior. You can dismiss eyewitnees, but you can't dismiss the fact that they were so certain of what they saw that they let themselves be killed rather than retract.Would you give your life for something you knew was a guess
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:53 am to AlterEd
Isn't daily mail the national enquirer?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:56 am to theballguy
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Basically what they're telling pastors and priests is to come up with some new bullshite to explain the alien stuff to their congregations so people don't just up and become non-religious and frick up the world by running amuck.
Yeah, assuming it is indeed true that governments are preparing religious leaders, the goal is pretty clear: be prepared with answers for your people because we don’t want large swaths of people going nuts and panicking and totally abandoning morality/order/hope/etc
Of course the other reason could be that this is all fake and they are laying the groundwork and planting the seeds for the fake alien invasion that many have warned about.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 11:57 am
Posted on 5/7/26 at 11:59 am to JPLSU1981
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the fake alien invasion that many have warned about.
Be it fake or not, I welcome either with open arms.
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