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re: Religious Leaders Told to 'Prepare Now' for UFO Disclosure and 'Bible-Changing' Revelation
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
Always existed…?
You understand the philosophical issues with this idea right? Additionally, if this energy exists out of space, time and matter… seems pretty godly to me. Everything with a beginning requires a cause after all.
You understand the philosophical issues with this idea right? Additionally, if this energy exists out of space, time and matter… seems pretty godly to me. Everything with a beginning requires a cause after all.
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:15 pm to AlterEd
Aliens=demons.
2 Thessalonians 2:9-11
The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and FALSE SIGNS AND WONDERS, and with all wicked DECEPTION for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them A STRONG DELUSION, so that they may believe what is false,
2 Thessalonians 2:9-11
The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and FALSE SIGNS AND WONDERS, and with all wicked DECEPTION for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. Therefore God sends them A STRONG DELUSION, so that they may believe what is false,
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:17 pm to Powerman
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Millions of people died during the Taiping Rebellion is the point
The idea that something must be true because people die for it is a pretty juvenile thought if we're being honest here
You’re missing the point: followers die for lies because they believe the lie, but founders only die if they know it’s the truth.In the Taiping Rebellion or Islam, millions died for a leader's "vision",they were trusting someone else's word. But the Apostles were the ones making the claim. They were in the position to know for a fact if the body was still in the grave.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:17 pm to moneyg
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what?
Adam, Even, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus, the apostles, Mary....all human.
It's written in human language from a human perspective starring human characters.
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You aren't making any sense.
You're struggling with something that is pretty simple, FWIW
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:18 pm to moneyg
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what?
I'm going to be nice and suggest that you need to be a bit more specific to your point. You aren't making any sense.
He suggested that the bible is human based. That's not a complex statement to either agree or disagree with.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:19 pm to METAL
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You understand the philosophical issues with this idea right?
Feel free to explain
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Additionally, if this energy exists out of space, time and matter… seems pretty godly to me.
You're imputing things to my comments that I did not.
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Everything with a beginning requires a cause after all.
This is an example of the "very human-centric cognitive limitation" I referenced in my post
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Adam, Even, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus, the apostles, Mary....all human.
It's written in human language from a human perspective starring human characters.
Not one Adam and Steve in there that is why you're in here.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:20 pm to aubie101
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Not one Adam and Steve in there that is why you're in here.
The frick?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:21 pm to aubie101
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Not one Adam and Steve in there that is why you're in here.
In case anyone was confusing you for a serious person
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:22 pm to AlterEd
We as Christians should have been taught the book of Enoch. At least the first 2-3 parts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:23 pm to Powerman
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In case anyone was confusing you for a serious person
I am also funny... But refute my points.. He is a gay so I made a gay joke.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
Imagine a flower shop where the owner counts the flowers before she opens each day. If the flower count is finite then the store eventually opens. If it’s infinite then the store will never open. Now apply the flowers to days in the past… if you have an infinite amount of days to get where we are now (the store opening) you would never open the store.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:24 pm to SlowFlowPro
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There is always the possibility that this energy has always existed.
That's every bit as much of a belief as a belief in a creator.
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Trying to require a creation sequence is a very human-centric cognitive limitation.
You mean logical. If basic logic isn't a requirement then what's the point? You've accidentally admitted that you atheists are all just believers of a different kind.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:24 pm to moneyg
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A question for you...if there is no God, where did matter and space come from...when did it first exist? Did it spawn out of nothing? What is nothing? How? Any "fact based, scientific, mathy" ideas of plausibly explaining this?
I wish I knew the answer. I’ve watched hours and hours and hours of documentaries and TV shows asking the same thing. IMO, if we ever do find the answer (which I’m guessing we probably won’t), my guess is the answer would lie somehow in the elements and science and some sort of chemical reaction or something along those lines that has a scientific formula or explanation. I don’t believe there was a person or persons that created it all. Now that said, I do believe intelligent beings can create things, so I don’t rule out the possibility that intelligent (and mortal) beings had a hand in “creating” us. But they’re long dead IMO and not spiritual or supernatural in any way. I believe there is a future where a handful of earth humans travel to and seed another planet in the future and those people are looked at as “gods” by that planet’s future beings.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Adam, Even, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus, the apostles, Mary....all human.
It's written in human language from a human perspective starring human characters.
of course.
But, your larger point is what?
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You're struggling with something that is pretty simple, FWIW
You are struggling mightily to make a point. Want to try again?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:26 pm to CorchJay
Dear Lord, there aren’t 10 dimensions. You act as if string theory is a fact, and it’s anything but.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:26 pm to METAL
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If the flower count is finite then the store eventually opens. If it’s infinite then the store will never open. Now apply the flowers to days in the past… if you have an infinite amount of days to get where we are now (the store opening) you would never open the store.
You're mixing up variables of your metaphor.
If the florist and her plant were immortal, the shop would always have stock in perpetuity. That's a better metaphor using your variables.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:26 pm to aubie101
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I am also funny... But refute my points.. He is a gay so I made a gay joke.
Your 5th grade sense of humor seems to pair well with your IQ
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:27 pm to moneyg
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That's every bit as much of a belief as a belief in a creator.
I didn't state it as a belief. I stated it as a possibility.
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You mean logical.
Fallacy
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If basic logic isn't a requirement then what's the point?
Fruit of fallacy
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:27 pm to moneyg
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A question for you...if there is no God, where did matter and space come from...when did it first exist? Did it spawn out of nothing? What is nothing? How? Any "fact based, scientific, mathy" ideas of plausibly explaining this?
Even if I was to accept the concept of an intelligent designer that does not in any way give credibility to the designer being the same being as the God of the Bible or any god in human literature. I cannot understand how that leap in made but religious folks seem to do it with ease. I frankly cannot wrap my head around the concept of a prime mover.....its just turtles all the way down
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