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re: ‘Read this email immediately’: CDC calls 180 employees back to work 2 weeks after firing

Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:48 pm to
Posted by Spelt it rong
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
10730 posts
Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:48 pm to
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mean, technically... who didn't?

Touché. I shall retire to my chambers after this defeat.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:12 am to
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The way Elon is doing it is rash, backfiring, and will also lead to lawsuits costing us money.

I don’t give a frick anymore
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
1159 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 12:49 am to
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What a moronic thing to post. Yes, Musk fired 80% of Twitter's workforce almost immediately, and revenue dropped. And then it rose again. Last time I checked (about a week ago), revenue was back up to almost the all time high of $1.4billion, but with a drastically reduced workforce. You people on this thread who think you know the first thing about whether a company is being run correctly or not, but who obviously have never done anything in your life but punch a clock (and complain about how the company you worked for was being run) make me laugh. The last time I saw y'all come out of the woodwork was during the COVID lockdowns. All these people on social media blaming businesses (mostly locally owned small businesses at that) for going out of business and/or laying employees off during the lockdowns because "If they were run correctly they would have more than 1-2 months of reserve cash to float them." Without ever stopping to do any simple napkin math to see if their assertion was valid (hint, it wasn't). The average profit margin for small businesses is 7-10%. Let's call it 10% for the ease of the math. The average small business owner takes home a little over $70,000 a year (close enough to that to round down for convenience sake). That means that the yearly revenue is $700,000, or just over $58,000 a month, and expenses comprise just over $52,000 of that. $5,800 left over. Which means if the owner didn't take a dime for him/herself, it would take 10 months to put away one month's worth of expenses. 5 years to accumulate 6 month's worth. And again, that's 5 years of the owner taking home nothing, just paying bills and socking away what would have been his take home to prepare for an international pandemic. Actually, it would take longer than that, because taxes would eat up a percentage of that monty, but for simplicity's sake... This is the kind of very simple stuff that you armchair business owners have no clue about, but freely opine about.


X like most tech companies live off of H1Bs that they can drive into the ground 60-80hr a week. The non H1Bs putting in similar time aren’t going to take a low paid government job.

Saying something worked at a tech company like X so it’ll be totally fine at a government job is so laughably stupid I’m almost speechless…almost.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
79603 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 2:12 am to
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The way Elon is doing it is rash, backfiring, and will also lead to lawsuits costing us money.


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Business is a domain in which inexperienced people often imagine themselves to be smarter than the most successful leaders.

Here are some of the worst takes on DOGE from our least experienced citizens.

1. "DOGE should use a scalpel, not a chainsaw."

2. "The cuts need to be more thoughtful."

3. "DOGE is lowering morale among the affected."
4. "DOGE is creating chaos."

5. "DOGE is how Musk will rob the country."

6. "Musk was not elected."

7. "DOGE needs to be more transparent."

If you find yourself tempted to say any of those things in public, I recommend taking the week off of social media.


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124665 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 2:19 am to
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so there is a better way to do it...and we did it in 95 under Clinton


lol. No.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
79603 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 2:22 am to
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lol. No.


Correct. Kevin O'Leary says go harder.

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Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
134949 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 4:21 am to
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CDC calls 180 employees back to work 2 weeks after firing
CDC calls 180 employees back to work 2 weeks after being laid off.
And?

Good for those employees ... right?

This happens all the time in the private sector. It happened years ago to my dad amongst a mass of layoffs. A week later when they realized they'd made a mistake in his case, rescinded his notice, and invited him back, he'd already located a better position elsewhere.

The tone of your post comes across as if the 180 returning workers should be unhappy somehow about employment regained so quickly.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 4:43 am to
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Elon said they are moving so fast that they will make mistakes but that they will quickly correct them

No big deal


I predicted that this would happen. It is actually good business practice.

Fire everyone so that no one can claim discrimination.

The, after a few weeks, you find out who the real contributors were, and you hire them back.

It happens in corporate America too.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
12800 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 5:25 am to
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X like most tech companies live off of H1Bs that they can drive into the ground 60-80hr a week


My company has invited over 500 of us "supervisors" to a call to discuss how to respond properly to USCIS questioning about other employees visa status in response to increased checks (bring it on!)

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Saying something worked at a tech company like X so it’ll be totally fine at a government job

Many workers performing little to no work getting canned to reduce costs? Yeah, clearly doesn't translate into FedGov, school districts, McDonalds, Wal-Mart, a midstream O&G... Oh wait. It does. Remind me again how every government shut down cripples the American economy. Yes, everyone makes great fanfare over how it'll take six months to get a passport, you can't walk around a 200 year old memorial cause it's taped off, just like if you don't increase taxes, it's firefighters and teachers that will suffer. Boo fricking hoo.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
58472 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 5:39 am to
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This happens all the time in the private sector.


This has been parroted repeatedly but no one has given an example. It seems unlikely that companies frequently or regularly fire staff members just to rehire them back shortly after. That’s extremely inefficient.

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The tone of your post comes across as if the 180 returning workers should be unhappy somehow about employment regained so quickly.


I’ve explicitly and repeatedly stated that thoughtlessly firing employees en masse is the problem. Who would be happy about that? Who would trust an employer who would do this?
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
2379 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 5:41 am to
The whole thing is a mistake
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92475 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 5:43 am to
Why? Be specific and coherent
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43818 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 5:44 am to
IMO, I’d fire every federal employee and then hire them back on an as needed basis.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
134949 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:21 am to
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This has been parroted repeatedly but no one has given an example.
I literally just did.

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regularly fire staff members
Unless you're talking about "for cause" dismissal or immolation, you're misusing the term "fire"
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9281 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:23 am to
Yes.

Hes got less than 2 years before midterms and we can assume theyre going to cheat again to flip seats.

Tick tock.

You either believe there's massive waste and fraud and it has to be dealt with as soon as humanly possible or you don't. Most of us want the kid gloves off.

In my opinion, blame those in charge of the waste and fraud, not those rooting it out swiftly.

Casualties of war, imo.
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 6:24 am
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
81579 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:26 am to
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Not unusual in the business world. Cut too much and hire back what you truly need. Rough on the employees affected but it’s nothing new.
This

When you acquire a bloated company that is hemorrhaging cash, you first cut more than you need, and then find out exactly what you need to run the company.

Same thing Elon did at Twitter and Tesla
This post was edited on 3/6/25 at 6:27 am
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
15949 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:28 am to
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It’s probably a big deal to the 180 non-billionaires who were fired without cause.


Yeah. I remember you crying for the coal and oil workers during the Obama years. And your epic breakdown in tears for gas appliance workers, Keystone oil pipeline workers, and federal land oil driller employees under Biden.

Your shining tears when your programmers sent out articles that said “learn to code” was just epic.

Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
81579 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:32 am to
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This has been parroted repeatedly but no one has given an example.
Since you are hand-wringing about Elon, Twitter and Tesla

Pretty much every acquisition in the history of business, that wasn't immediately liquidated.

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It seems unlikely that companies frequently or regularly fire staff members just to rehire them back shortly after.
Are you fricking serious? Are you a serious person right now?

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That’s extremely inefficient.
Inefficiency is why the acquisition occurs. You layoff more than you need to find out how many people are actually needed to run the business
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36144 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:37 am to
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You've never had a real job, have you?

I've had quite a few real jobs, if I was fired and then brought back the only way that I'd return is if I hadn't already found another job. Then, after I came back I'd still be looking for another job
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
7833 posts
Posted on 3/6/25 at 6:38 am to
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Unless you're talking about "for cause" dismissal or immolation, you're misusing the term "fire"


She is just repeating what she read. Don’t bother assuming she understands anything.
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