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re: Rates of COVID infection by vaccination status
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:37 am to Jon Ham
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:37 am to Jon Ham
quote:
If you want to call raw dogging a deadly virus concocted in China as “natural immunization” that’s fine but I hope you aren’t implying that’s a preferable way to gain immunity over a vaccine that’s been tested, approved, and widely recommended by medical experts.
Bro, natural immunity is clearly better. Just stop.
If you're not old or obese it's a stretch to call CV19 "deadly", also.
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 7:38 am
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:38 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Bro, natural immunity is clearly better. Just stop.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:38 am to Jon Ham
quote:
Your hypothesis is noted. We can revisit this together when the updated chart is posted.
How do you want to do this?
Are you going to spike the football when unvaccinated rates are still higher while ignoring any spike in vaccinated rates?
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:39 am to STEVED00
I've never argued otherwise 
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:40 am to Jon Ham
I am sure if the data showed the vaccinated were equally at risk, the CDC would be publishing that right away. Dude, you can get the jabs, that doesn't prove you are dumb. However, citing the CDC information and believing it as fact makes you look dumb.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:44 am to Jon Ham
Can you scrap together one of these charts for Gibraltar? Since they're 118% vaccinated, it should show 0% cases in unvaccinated individuals and 100% cases in *vaccinated individuals.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:49 am to Jon Ham
Maybe this has been pointed out, but even Pfizer admits the vax is pretty useless after about 4 months against Alpha and Delta, and completely useless against Omicron. So congrats on your chart I guess.
And please stop calling covid a deadly disease if you want to be taken seriously.
And please stop calling covid a deadly disease if you want to be taken seriously.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:54 am to Jon Ham
So what's fully vaxx?
Are you fully vaxx if you got doubled jabbed over a year ago?
Do you really believe that? Lol
Are you fully vaxx if you got doubled jabbed over a year ago?
Do you really believe that? Lol
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:57 am to LSUAngelHere1
quote:Yeah, I didn't claim it was a new story. I'm just offering evidence that the numbers are cooked.
James O’Keefe exposed this last year.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:06 am to Jon Ham
quote:
If you want to call raw dogging a deadly virus concocted in China as “natural immunization” that’s fine but I hope you aren’t implying that’s a preferable way to gain immunity over a vaccine that’s been tested, approved, and widely recommended by medical experts.
Hmmm...
Johnson and Johnson developed a one and done covid shot that was “tested, approved, and widely recommended by medical experts”. Now everyone should be singing Kumbaya with warm and fuzzy feelings.
Now after thousands upon thousands got “raw dogged” by company “testing”, government “approval”, and was “widely recommended by medical experts”, we get told that IT WAS NOT SAFE! and IT WAS NOT EFFECTIVE!
I’m not anti Wuflu shot. I’ve had 3 myself!
But when corporations do their own test like J&J, the government rushes approval like they did with J&J, and medical experts (who really know Jack shite about it) go raw dogging and jab this J&J shite into thousands of unsuspecting arms, I think it’s reasonable to have questions about the shots.
Further when the Fake News media and government protected social media suppress medical experts with different opinions, and Democrats embrace FORCED MEDICAL PROCEDURES on the unwilling, when the CDC claims they don’t have numbers on the duration and effectiveness of your body’s naturally obtained immunity from fighting off the Wuflu (and you can shove your “natural immunization” up your arse because immunity after an infection is scientific and medical FACT), it is reasonable for one to SMELL A RAT.
Rushed shots, rushed emergency approval, suppression of opposition opinions by medical experts, government mandates, and Fake News propaganda makes for a toxic witches brew of danger and doubt.
Real people died with J&J raw dogged into their arms that would have lived.
There are potential risks to all the shots. There are potential rewards to all the shots including J&J. They key is for reasonable people to make well informed decisions for themselves and their children!
The DNC/MSM Political Complex is withholding information and removing consent! And if you support that, you need to go
yourself!
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:06 am to blueboy
808 posted an article the other day stating that NY suddenly wants to stop counting bullshite covid cases and deaths for higher accuracy. Why did they do this before democrats were in power?
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:09 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
Oh wait, I know. Because a lot of people here want to see the vaccinated get hurt just so they can say “I told you so”.
This is a bullshite take. My wife and I aren't vaccinated. However, both of our 20ish kids decided to go get it. One because he's a woke liberal and the other because her boss pressured her to get it. We begged them not to do it, but whatever. They are adults. With that said, I certainly don't wish harm to them because they decided to get it no more than I wish harm on anyone else that did so.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:13 am to Jon Ham
Wanna know how i know youre an dumbass? You jumped and pumped this chart without even admitting that all it would take is to add one plot line to get to the truth. I mean, how hard would that be actually?
* fully vaccinated
* unvaccinated
* Partially vaccinated
But you accepted 'their version' of this data like a dumbass, and accepted it as truth like a dumbass would
Side note: vaccines were approved for 5-16 year olds on 10/29, so any kids testing positive immediately were added to the unvaccinated column. How convenient
* fully vaccinated
* unvaccinated
* Partially vaccinated
But you accepted 'their version' of this data like a dumbass, and accepted it as truth like a dumbass would
Side note: vaccines were approved for 5-16 year olds on 10/29, so any kids testing positive immediately were added to the unvaccinated column. How convenient
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:20 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
I've never argued otherwise
Yeah. I assume you passed the Presidential Physical Fitness Standard for Flexibility based on your ability to twist and turn yourself in order to prove that you are always right.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:20 am to Jon Ham
You do see the word "FULLY " before vaccinated and realize if you don't have a fricking booster they are counting you as unvaxxed..right?
EVERY SINGLE PERSON I KNOW RIGHT NOW WITH COVID...AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM...ARE VACCINATED.
EVERY.
ONE.
EVERY SINGLE PERSON I KNOW RIGHT NOW WITH COVID...AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM...ARE VACCINATED.
EVERY.
ONE.
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 8:24 am
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:30 am to Jon Ham
Anecdotal I know, but EVERY SINGLE PERSON I know who has tested positive for this crap in the last three weeks (roughly a dozen) has been fully vaxxed and most have had boosters.
With all the money being thrown around, I am sure there is no reason for corrupt officials to cook the books.
Hell, NY admitted as much this week by stating they would now start counting COVID deaths CORRECTLY - only counting deaths FROM COVID and not deaths WITH COVID.
Just watch. Other states will follow suit and in a few months they will declare that all the vaxxing, masking and locking down have worked - just in time for the midterm elections.
With all the money being thrown around, I am sure there is no reason for corrupt officials to cook the books.
Hell, NY admitted as much this week by stating they would now start counting COVID deaths CORRECTLY - only counting deaths FROM COVID and not deaths WITH COVID.
Just watch. Other states will follow suit and in a few months they will declare that all the vaxxing, masking and locking down have worked - just in time for the midterm elections.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:40 am to Tigahs24Seven
we should all acknowledge that the fully vaccinated will have reasonable levels of protection within the immediate months after the injection.
we should also acknowledge that number of infections is absolutely meaningless right now since the dominant strain is not deadly and presents mild symptoms. The vast majority of individuals are at ZERO risk of death from any variant. It is VERY reasonable for an individual to calculate vaccine risk against infection risk and opt to remain unvaccinated.
So trying to create an Abeline Paradox so everyone runs out and gets this vaccine or get boosted against their judgment when there is still so much unknown is unethical and dangerous.
we should also acknowledge that number of infections is absolutely meaningless right now since the dominant strain is not deadly and presents mild symptoms. The vast majority of individuals are at ZERO risk of death from any variant. It is VERY reasonable for an individual to calculate vaccine risk against infection risk and opt to remain unvaccinated.
So trying to create an Abeline Paradox so everyone runs out and gets this vaccine or get boosted against their judgment when there is still so much unknown is unethical and dangerous.
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 9:07 am
Posted on 1/6/22 at 9:11 am to Jon Ham
If it was an actual vaccine it would prevent you from getting covid like the Small Pox vaccine and the Polio vaccine. It is more like the flu shot, which is not called a vaccine because it doesn't prevent you from getting the flu.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 9:21 am to Jon Ham
Put on three masks and go get your 9th booster.
No one gives a shite
No one gives a shite
Posted on 1/6/22 at 9:34 am to Jon Ham
quote:
that’s been tested, approved, and widely recommended by medical experts.
How many millions got the vax before approval.
Did it go through the same approval process as every other med that's developed?
Do you trust big Pharma now?
Why doesn't the media and the left demand free vax's after big Pharma has made record profits?
Do you like the fact the politicians have large stock portfolios in big Pharma?
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