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re: Rarely post but watch this Putin speech
Posted on 11/5/23 at 5:08 pm to Westbank111
Posted on 11/5/23 at 5:08 pm to Westbank111
I have always wondered why the predominately white countries were always at war or building up to prevent war with each other.
Who has a grudge against the whitey?
Who has a grudge against the whitey?
Posted on 11/5/23 at 5:11 pm to trinidadtiger
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Depends on what you call freedom. I spent many late nights and early mornings out in the streets of downtown St. Petersburg walking around, drinking, riding the subway, without any sense whatsoever of personal safety concerns.....try that in any city half that size in America.
Both St Petersburg and Moscow have their seedy underbelly that you definitely don't want to be in come 1AM. If you want to go to a really safe big city try Beijing. While it may seem counterintuitive the more freedom a people have the more dangerous it is, authoritarian countries often have much more safety. I enjoyed my time in al three cities but there is a palpable tension below the surface, especially in Moscow and Beijing.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 5:17 pm to trinidadtiger
We have been lied to. Bigly
Posted on 11/5/23 at 5:20 pm to Westbank111
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but I seen this speech
Stopped reading here.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 5:25 pm to thejuiceisloose
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What freedoms? Their citizens are not free
Well, maybe a little more free than they were under his hero and role model Lenin.
But even with Lenin, there's no record of even him planting explosive devices among his own people, causing a slew of injuries and deaths solely for a political objective. The toll was 300-plus of his own people.
And when his FSB was caught in the act, his explanation was that "it was a training exercise," which the populace had no alternative but to accept.
Other than that the only thing we can pinpoint is it wouldn't be a wise move for any of his political adversaries to accept an invitation from him to tea.
Maybe whatever "freedoms" they have are tenuous at best.
Still attempting to reconcile what mentality it takes to fawn and gush over a Bolshevik who can only be associated with anything "global" by highlighting his never-ending search of the globe for new financial havens/sanctuaries to hide his ill-gotten gains off the backs of the Russian people - as we recently found out by the problems going on at Credit Suisse.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 5:25 pm to Powerman
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You guys are morons. The outcome of a weakened Russia is to solidify American and western dominance.
It's like you don't know anything about history.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 5:27 pm to Obtuse1
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Both St Petersburg and Moscow have their seedy underbelly that you definitely don't want to be in come 1AM. If you want to go to a really safe big city try Beijing. While it may seem counterintuitive the more freedom a people have the more dangerous it is, authoritarian countries often have much more safety. I enjoyed my time in al three cities but there is a palpable tension below the surface, especially in Moscow and Beijing.
I have lived abroad for over 20 years traveled extensively throughout South America, Central America, Caribbean, Eastern and Western Europe, Ive seen the best and worst of mankind. And the "seedy" area of St. Petersburg I visited with a business partner to see his largest customer at his massive warehouse, replete with over 20 armed men. He refered to Trini as his "great american friend" a 20something filthy rich individual, who gave me his business card and said to call him with any problems I might have in St Petersburg. My interpreter said not to use that number at all lest he kill whoever offended you along with his family and their pets. It was still safer than MLK boulevard in any major US city (10 cents to Chris Rock).
Posted on 11/5/23 at 5:28 pm to Westbank111
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Putin just wants to preserve his country’s freedoms
The only freedoms that Russians currently have is the ability to purchase and consume inhuman amounts of vodka and still legally drive a vehicle.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 5:31 pm to jackamo3300
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Well, maybe a little more free than they were under his hero and role model Lenin.
Putin has stated that if you miss the USSR you have no brain. To suggest Lenin is truly his hero and role model seems absurd. Is there a reference for that?
Posted on 11/5/23 at 5:43 pm to RuLSU
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They're free to get imprisoned when they speak out against the administration.
This has happened in the US. At the behest of Joedomir Butin.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 5:56 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
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Yeah I’m just here to say I lost all of my guns in a boating accident.
It's those darn cypress stumps.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 6:08 pm to RuLSU
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They're free to get poisoned. They're free to get thrown out of a window. They're free to get imprisoned when they speak out against the administration. They're free to get conscripted.
I don’t like Putin or communism
But it’s time for us to look in the mirror
How many political prisoners are being unjustly imprisoned and tortured and abused in the USA?
Posted on 11/5/23 at 6:22 pm to Rohan Gravy
It should be noted here that the US is one of the most heavily propagandized countries that ever existed. We are primarily gun runners (endless wars) and drug dealers (Pharma poisons). Yet many of us believe things like gulf of Tonkin, WMDs, exporting democracy, safe and effective, brain chemical imbalances, etc.
The one prominent place where you can find truth right now is X, and look at the campaign to bring it and Elon down.
I don’t care to argue about Putin, but if you think we are controlled by the good guys, you’re lost.
The one prominent place where you can find truth right now is X, and look at the campaign to bring it and Elon down.
I don’t care to argue about Putin, but if you think we are controlled by the good guys, you’re lost.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 6:32 pm to Westbank111
At the 24 minute mark: "There cannot be one civilization for everyone, we need to coexist with different civilizations" got the globalists big mad.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 6:34 pm to Westbank111
quote:Bless your heart
I believe him
Posted on 11/5/23 at 6:34 pm to mahdragonz
Lost American freedoms you clown!
Only freedoms now are “if you get in line with the sheeple you have freedoms of speech”
Don’t get me started with other freedoms that have been stolen aka “trying to fly city to city” NOW we have NSA acting as Nazzi Clowns shaking us down like we are terrorist you Bitch!
Please list how our freedoms have improved and I’ll sit back and listen
Only freedoms now are “if you get in line with the sheeple you have freedoms of speech”
Don’t get me started with other freedoms that have been stolen aka “trying to fly city to city” NOW we have NSA acting as Nazzi Clowns shaking us down like we are terrorist you Bitch!
Please list how our freedoms have improved and I’ll sit back and listen
Posted on 11/5/23 at 6:36 pm to Westbank111
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I RARELY am an OP’er, but I seen this speech from Putin.
You have one of those New Iberia hair cuts baw?
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:05 pm to Westbank111
quote:holy shite
Putin just wants to preserve his country’s freedoms and individualism versus NWO where everyone is a ## and disposable.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:08 pm to shel311
GFY & can meet me at Sonic punk mf’er
Posted on 11/5/23 at 7:12 pm to POTUS2024
Have had some who come on here with "links" professing that Putin is "a really good guy."
Would prefer to take the word of the European Institute and The Heritage Foundation.
Have posted these links before, but obviously it was like talking to the wall.
LINK
Also some of these gems from The European Institute Analyzes the Bolshevik Code:
- As a good student of Lenin, Putin follows Lenin’s definition of compromise as an act which can be exploited as part of a tactical moment and deception to weaken the opposition and create a new favorable reality. Any agreement can be canceled if the balance of forces changes to allow Russian advantage. There are no rules for agreed procedures, only pressure to gain immediate goals. Putin’s scenario for the Russian invasion and seizure of Crimea follow the Bolshevik Code.
- Bolshevik self image formed before the October 1917 Revolution did not change even after the Bolsheviks took power. Soviet leaders “have continued to see themselves in the same position as they were in relation to the tsarist government, i.e., out of power and in a dangerous position.” Their self image was that they had no legitimacy."
- Politics is war.
- Push to the limit in any political encounter, such as a negotiation.
- Assume deception by an adversary.
- Pressure creates opportunities.
- Rudeness intimidates and forces an adversary to seek acceptance by compromise./i]
- [i]More force is better than less force. Annihilating the enemy and starting anew is better than trying to convert a class enemy.
- Retreat before superior force.
- In 1919, Lenin wrote, "if the Party does not use violence against its enemies it lays itself open to violence from them; the question is only who will destroy whom.”
- Who will destroy whom continues through Putin’s brand of selective repression.
- Perseverance, guile and opportunism are keys to conduct in the Bolshevik Code. The Party need not be concerned with consistency in its public statements. Again, only effectiveness is important.
- Under Putin, just as under the Soviet system, when the communist leadership declared a new reality all the forces of the government, police , military and propaganda coordinated their efforts to create a new political line. Putin’s justification for the invasion of Crimea and eastern Ukraine fits this pattern as do the words and actions of his Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov.
- In fact, the falsification of reality has an honored tradition in Soviet rule and even before the Soviets. It is doubtful that Putin, in his studies at the KGB’s Higher School Number 1 in Leningrad in the 1970s, ever read Sociologist Margaret Mead’s 1951 study of Soviet character.
- The readiness to falsify reality is the keystone of the Bolshevik Code.
- In September 1999 a series of bombings of apartment houses in Moscow, and other cities killed 300 people and wounded hundreds of others spreading a wave of fear across Russia. A similar explosive device was found and defused in the city of Ryazan on September 22. The next day Putin, then Prime Minister of Russia, praised the vigilance of the inhabitants of Ryazan and ordered the bombing of Grozny which marked the beginning of the Second Chechen War and Putin’s rise to the presidency, succeeding Boris Yeltsin.
- In Ryazan, the three Federal Security Service (FSB) agents who had planted the explosive device were arrested by the local police. The incident was publicly characterized as a training exercise. However, suspicions were raised that the bombings were a “false flag” attack perpetrated by the FSB in order to legitimize the resumption of military activities in Chechnya and bring Putin to power. There has never been a satisfactory public examination of who was responsible for planning and executing the bombings. Putin denied he had any part in the bombings which aroused strong public anger and support for retaliation against Chechnya.
- But as goes Bolsheviks' competency and use of conventional explosives on their own people, the last time it happened was back in 1999 when Putin was looking for something that would incite the Russian populace's hatred for the Chechens so he could resume bombing them again. So he had his FSB plant bombs among his own people causing deaths in the 300-plus range.
- Since 1917, Bolsheviks haven't displayed a particular problem or moral restraint with killing their own.
- For a year Putin and his Foreign Minister continued to vigorously deny the presence of Russian troops and heavy weapons in Crimea despite photographic and intercepted signals evidence to the contrary. Only In March 2015, a year later, in a Russian TV documentary titled, Crimea: The Road Back Home, did Putin admit what had been obvious for months. Threatening more force, Putin even said he was willing to arm nuclear weapons if necessary.
- The coup to oust Gorbachev in 1991 that led to the fall of the Soviet Union and Putin’s revival of the Bolshevik Code have brought forth new contradictions of income inequality in Russia between the broad masses and Putin’s allies who have amassed huge fortunes.
- Russians still claim moral superiority for their system over the evils of capitalism, but the return of the Bolshevik Code under Putin has forced living standards for the average Russian to deteriorate.
- Putin’s best defense has been to blame it all on the United States. In his March TV documentary Putin openly described the Ukrainian revolution to oust Viktor Yanukovich in February 2014 as an armed coup “masterminded by our American friends.”
- Putin has retreated to the cover of attacking the United States while defending Mother Russia and its historical destiny to defend and recover Crimea and the former Soviet naval base at Sevastopol.
That's just some of what can be found on Putin, and don't expect any of the above to even phase his apologists.
First we heard that "he's not a Bolshevik."
Then we heard "he's not a Communist."
Well how could he be legitimately called a commie with the affinity he's shown for rubles and greenbacks and his preoccupation with hiding them.
One thing appreciated is the European Institute covered his penchant for empty threats.
Which were taken seriously on this board with his "doomsday submarine" that they thought he was going to use and start WWIII.
See the "point-of-light" from the Bolshevik Code above "to retreat before superior power."
Also the reference to Margaret Mead's analysis of the character of the Russian people.
She probably was subtly tying into their geneaology - without saying it - the unavoidable fact that they are a populace that "boasts" almost 10 generations of being ruled by the Mongols. So the Mongol bloodline surges through many of them. Wonder if that's what makes them so difficult to deal with. Mix it with Bolshevism, and you've got a real witches' brew.
But Putin is getting tiring.
-
Would prefer to take the word of the European Institute and The Heritage Foundation.
Have posted these links before, but obviously it was like talking to the wall.
LINK
Also some of these gems from The European Institute Analyzes the Bolshevik Code:
- As a good student of Lenin, Putin follows Lenin’s definition of compromise as an act which can be exploited as part of a tactical moment and deception to weaken the opposition and create a new favorable reality. Any agreement can be canceled if the balance of forces changes to allow Russian advantage. There are no rules for agreed procedures, only pressure to gain immediate goals. Putin’s scenario for the Russian invasion and seizure of Crimea follow the Bolshevik Code.
- Bolshevik self image formed before the October 1917 Revolution did not change even after the Bolsheviks took power. Soviet leaders “have continued to see themselves in the same position as they were in relation to the tsarist government, i.e., out of power and in a dangerous position.” Their self image was that they had no legitimacy."
- Politics is war.
- Push to the limit in any political encounter, such as a negotiation.
- Assume deception by an adversary.
- Pressure creates opportunities.
- Rudeness intimidates and forces an adversary to seek acceptance by compromise./i]
- [i]More force is better than less force. Annihilating the enemy and starting anew is better than trying to convert a class enemy.
- Retreat before superior force.
- In 1919, Lenin wrote, "if the Party does not use violence against its enemies it lays itself open to violence from them; the question is only who will destroy whom.”
- Who will destroy whom continues through Putin’s brand of selective repression.
- Perseverance, guile and opportunism are keys to conduct in the Bolshevik Code. The Party need not be concerned with consistency in its public statements. Again, only effectiveness is important.
- Under Putin, just as under the Soviet system, when the communist leadership declared a new reality all the forces of the government, police , military and propaganda coordinated their efforts to create a new political line. Putin’s justification for the invasion of Crimea and eastern Ukraine fits this pattern as do the words and actions of his Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov.
- In fact, the falsification of reality has an honored tradition in Soviet rule and even before the Soviets. It is doubtful that Putin, in his studies at the KGB’s Higher School Number 1 in Leningrad in the 1970s, ever read Sociologist Margaret Mead’s 1951 study of Soviet character.
- The readiness to falsify reality is the keystone of the Bolshevik Code.
- In September 1999 a series of bombings of apartment houses in Moscow, and other cities killed 300 people and wounded hundreds of others spreading a wave of fear across Russia. A similar explosive device was found and defused in the city of Ryazan on September 22. The next day Putin, then Prime Minister of Russia, praised the vigilance of the inhabitants of Ryazan and ordered the bombing of Grozny which marked the beginning of the Second Chechen War and Putin’s rise to the presidency, succeeding Boris Yeltsin.
- In Ryazan, the three Federal Security Service (FSB) agents who had planted the explosive device were arrested by the local police. The incident was publicly characterized as a training exercise. However, suspicions were raised that the bombings were a “false flag” attack perpetrated by the FSB in order to legitimize the resumption of military activities in Chechnya and bring Putin to power. There has never been a satisfactory public examination of who was responsible for planning and executing the bombings. Putin denied he had any part in the bombings which aroused strong public anger and support for retaliation against Chechnya.
- But as goes Bolsheviks' competency and use of conventional explosives on their own people, the last time it happened was back in 1999 when Putin was looking for something that would incite the Russian populace's hatred for the Chechens so he could resume bombing them again. So he had his FSB plant bombs among his own people causing deaths in the 300-plus range.
- Since 1917, Bolsheviks haven't displayed a particular problem or moral restraint with killing their own.
- For a year Putin and his Foreign Minister continued to vigorously deny the presence of Russian troops and heavy weapons in Crimea despite photographic and intercepted signals evidence to the contrary. Only In March 2015, a year later, in a Russian TV documentary titled, Crimea: The Road Back Home, did Putin admit what had been obvious for months. Threatening more force, Putin even said he was willing to arm nuclear weapons if necessary.
- The coup to oust Gorbachev in 1991 that led to the fall of the Soviet Union and Putin’s revival of the Bolshevik Code have brought forth new contradictions of income inequality in Russia between the broad masses and Putin’s allies who have amassed huge fortunes.
- Russians still claim moral superiority for their system over the evils of capitalism, but the return of the Bolshevik Code under Putin has forced living standards for the average Russian to deteriorate.
- Putin’s best defense has been to blame it all on the United States. In his March TV documentary Putin openly described the Ukrainian revolution to oust Viktor Yanukovich in February 2014 as an armed coup “masterminded by our American friends.”
- Putin has retreated to the cover of attacking the United States while defending Mother Russia and its historical destiny to defend and recover Crimea and the former Soviet naval base at Sevastopol.
That's just some of what can be found on Putin, and don't expect any of the above to even phase his apologists.
First we heard that "he's not a Bolshevik."
Then we heard "he's not a Communist."
Well how could he be legitimately called a commie with the affinity he's shown for rubles and greenbacks and his preoccupation with hiding them.
One thing appreciated is the European Institute covered his penchant for empty threats.
Which were taken seriously on this board with his "doomsday submarine" that they thought he was going to use and start WWIII.
See the "point-of-light" from the Bolshevik Code above "to retreat before superior power."
Also the reference to Margaret Mead's analysis of the character of the Russian people.
She probably was subtly tying into their geneaology - without saying it - the unavoidable fact that they are a populace that "boasts" almost 10 generations of being ruled by the Mongols. So the Mongol bloodline surges through many of them. Wonder if that's what makes them so difficult to deal with. Mix it with Bolshevism, and you've got a real witches' brew.
But Putin is getting tiring.
-
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 7:26 pm
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