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re: Rarely post but watch this Putin speech

Posted on 11/6/23 at 11:58 am to
Posted by TS1926
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 11:58 am to
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can go in to DC and march up and down any street holding up a sign that says Biden sucks...stop funding for Ukraine and not get arrested .


Do that and at a minimum you will be harassed by the street soldiers of the DNC. In addition, you're going to end up on a watch list by FBI (HS).
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 12:00 pm to
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What freedoms? Their citizens are not free

And we are?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9314 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 12:46 pm to
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harassed by the street soldiers of the DNC


You mean folks that disagree with me barking back that I suck? Yea thats fine. Thats how freedom of speech works.

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In addition, you're going to end up on a watch list by FBI (HS).


Possibly....better than being jailed, slapped around by Boris and fined. And thats for a first offence.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 12:49 pm to
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..better than being jailed, slapped around by Boris and fined. And thats for a first offence.


You mean the way several Jan 6 Protesters who never entered the Capitol Bldg. that day were done by the Democrats?

I mean as we speak, Democrats are jailing or trying to jail Political opposition.


Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
8035 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 12:56 pm to
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ou mean folks that disagree with me barking back that I suck? Yea thats fine. Thats how freedom of speech works.


People that did that on Jan 06, those not even in the Capitol, were shot with rubber bullets, pepper sprayed while also fending themselves from the DNCs brown shirts.
I know you want to be an ostrich but it did happen.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
8035 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:00 pm to
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ThuperThumpin


Have you travelled to Russia? How much do you know other than what you've seen or read from Western media sources?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9314 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:13 pm to
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u mean the way several Jan 6 Protesters who never entered the Capitol Bldg. that day were done by the Democrats?


We could get into the nitty gritty of what occurred with Jan 6th protestors and whats occurring now with Trump... but even if I were to agree with all your whataboutisms and declare the US and the Biden regime a tyrannical state.. does it make Putin any better?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9314 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:18 pm to
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Have you travelled to Russia?


No. Ive worked with more than a few Russians. If so tell me what is incorrect about what I said.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:23 pm to
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Depends on what you call freedom. I spent many late nights and early mornings out in the streets of downtown St. Petersburg walking around, drinking, riding the subway, without any sense whatsoever of personal safety concerns.....try that in any city half that size in America.


I’d rather be in a city run by the old-school Italian or Russian mafia than in a city run by progressives.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
8035 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:24 pm to
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does it make Putin any better?


I don't know but I can guarantee this: Putin's not sending his goons to throw people in jail because they don't want their children to be "educated" by perverts.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9314 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:27 pm to
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eople that did that on Jan 06, those not even in the Capitol, were shot with rubber bullets, pepper sprayed while also fending themselves from the DNCs brown shirts.
I know you want to be an ostrich but it did happen.


Ive watched as much footage as has been released. I assume we've watched the same footage. Outside the Capitol was fricking shite show. You wanna compare that to someone peacefully protesting in DC like folks often do without incident.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:30 pm to
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does it make Putin any better?


What a shitty litmus, huh...

Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:32 pm to
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Outside the Capitol was fricking shite show.


So being involved in a "shite show" is worthy of being abused, jailed and held without due process?

Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:33 pm to
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You wanna compare that to someone peacefully protesting in DC like folks often do without incident.


But the point is that DEMOCRATS often do WORSE and are allowed to get away with it.

Democrat controlled America is no better than Putin at this point.

Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
8035 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:33 pm to
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No. Ive worked with more than a few Russians. If so tell me what is incorrect about what I said.


It is incorrect in the fact, you're not as free to do what you want here. If you go against the current regime, and in the process make a name for yourself, they will come after you. We have recent examples. For one, they threw a guy in federal prison for a meme! This is here..not Russia.
I have plenty more examples if you wish.
In Russia, if you have influence and become critical of Putin and the government, look out! But it's the same here now!
Many Western ex pats live in Russia. It's not that bad of a place to live unless you're mentally ill like a transgender or some sort of pervert.
This post was edited on 11/6/23 at 1:37 pm
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9314 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:41 pm to
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So being involved in a "shite show" is worthy of being abused, jailed and held without due process?


Which protestor that never entered the Capitol was held without due process and for how long?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9314 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:49 pm to
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. It's not that bad of a place to live unless you're mentally ill like a transgender or some sort of pervert.


How is life outside of Moscow and St Petersburg?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138519 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:51 pm to
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Our press maybe be partisan but they are free to criticize the current regime nightly for hours and hours if they want.
A tree may fall in the woods, but if no one was able to see or hear it, did it really happen?

Hunter Biden's laptop revealed Joe Biden's criminal financial ties, but the FBI/CIA convinced our media it was Russian disinfo. For outlets which realized the FBI/CIA was full of shite, the information structure to carry contradictory thier information was undercut, severely limiting reach of their message.

So how much does it actually matter that the press is "free" to say something, if Americans are prevented from hearing/seeing/reading it?

I'd argue there is barely any difference at all.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138519 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:53 pm to
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How is life outside of Moscow and St Petersburg?
Better than it was in Ukraine's Eastern Oblasts. Why do you ask?
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
8035 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:55 pm to
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How is life outside of Moscow and St Petersburg?


It's not that bad. Parts of Siberia are nice if you can stand the cold winters. The people there are awesome though.
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