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re: Quick tip: SC Affirmative Action Ruling means nothing

Posted on 7/1/23 at 6:16 am to
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
15843 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 6:16 am to
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What did Asians do to get stereotyped and racially mistreated by Harvard?

They blew up the narrative that non-whites can't excel in society without a helping hand from the left. It's a mortal sin in their eyes.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9517 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 6:24 am to
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I thought libs simply ignoring SC rulings was a recent cultural thing. But last Sunday at church someone mentioned the SC outlawing prayer in schools 60 years ago. Many members of our life group class mentioned they were still praying in their schools in 1980 ( in the south). So, even conservatives were also doing it many years ago. ??


Not even close to the same thing. And, furthermore, they didn’t say “you may never pray in school.”
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25285 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 6:26 am to
IDK, sure seems to have pissed off the Left.

And that's a good thing.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13493 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 8:43 am to
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Till the universities get shred for the potential lifetime earnings of a student who didn’t get in, while a lesser deserving student did…and the difference is race. That’s when the practice will stop.


This, you guys need to stop with the negativity. When schools have openly stated they will defy the order and continue to be racist, it wont be too difficult to prove it in court if they continue business as usual.

And the lawsuit will be that I was deprived of an education to have a career as a hedge fund operator where I would have amassed a wealth slightly north of 2billion in net present value....thats my story and Im stickin to it.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45194 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 9:14 am to
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Nothing will change but the ruling be hammered as a Dem campaign point.


Republicans should constantly ask why democrats think that blacks are inferior to whites and must be given easier paths in life.
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 9:18 am to
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Where the "RACE" box used to be there'll be a single question:

When eating chicken wings, which dip do you prefer?

A) Hot Sauce

B) Ranch

C) Sriracha

D) Ewww... I'm vegan.


Percentages added/deducted from scores:

A) +20
B) -10
c) -20
D) +5
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39582 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 9:21 am to
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You’re a fool if you believe every school won’t go out of their way to still keep the practice.

You are the fool if you believe this. Many schools will do as you say - maybe most - but not all schools will. And the point is that the pressure from the Federal Government has been outlawed.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21740 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 9:24 am to
Jim Crow gonna Jim Crow...
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 11:05 am to
Hope they like spending their ridiculous endowments on shitty liberal attorneys to defend against 7 million lawsuits.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6794 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 11:13 am to
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You’re a fool if you believe every school won’t go out of their way to still keep the practice. Nothing will change in this race obsessed current culture we live in.


What is does is create an avenue for lawsuits. This will eventually wear them down financially
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16768 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 11:21 am to
I think what it does is opens up the school for lawsuit if it’s proven that admissions show preference for race over merit.

Meaning - white/Asian students are systemically turned away while others with the same or lesser merit are accepted.

Can they still do it? Sure. But it’s not without risk. There’s no legal safety net.
This post was edited on 7/1/23 at 11:24 am
Posted by thejuiceisloose
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Member since Nov 2018
4226 posts
Posted on 7/1/23 at 12:04 pm to
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Not far off. They will instead put a new essay question that will be evaluated on content alone, not grammatical or spelling errors. The question will be: How has your race impacted your life and the community around you? They will then weigh this essay the same as the check box previously. It’s an easy question for them to know their race and gets around the SCOTUS ruling, because they aren’t evaluating you on your race, but the answer to a question


No, they won’t….the opinion almost references this exact scenario. But I guess you had to find a way to be the victim so you created this hypothetical
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5799 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 3:09 am to
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What if you like them coated in hot sauce then dipped in a side of ranch?


You're white.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39197 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 5:42 am to
All Whistleblowers must be believed, and verified.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29203 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 5:59 am to
Maybe not but it gives people the right to sue if they find out that it's still going on I would think. I guess they would have to prove they were harmed and as a direct result of the schools race based application process.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4153 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:07 am to
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And that's a good thing.


The good thing is that it upholds equal protection under the law...at least to the degree that it can in this context. That's the good part. That it angers the opposition is merely incidental.

This idea that anything that makes the other tribe angry is awesome is specious to the point of being counter-productive IMO. It's why we have abandoned principle in favor of populism, it's why we have a cult of Trump, and it's why the base is so easily manipulated by the left.

We need to let go of this junior-high mentality and go back to being the adult in the room. The left has always been childish. Now that the right has embraced being childish there's no adult left to see to it that bills get paid and the house doesn't burn down.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4153 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:18 am to
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Maybe not but it gives people the right to sue if they find out that it's still going on I would think. I guess they would have to prove they were harmed and as a direct result of the schools race based application process.


That's what I think too.

The best that can happen with the ruling is that it provides a legal basis for stringing up those who get caught by their buster-browns.

The other thing it does is provide at least the beginning of a legal basis for challenging the advancement of university employees on the basis of AA, which is where you will see lawsuits.

I personally know people in that situation. I know one guy who was the only professor qualified to teach a certain class or series of classes but was being paid below his classification to teach them and was told straight up that he wasn't being paid the appropriate scale because there were two other professors in his department (neither of whom was qualified to teach the classes) who were black females and the person in charge (also a black female) wasn't going to pay a white male more than she was paying the black females.

It's been a while since the details were told to me and I may have butchered them to some extent, but that's the gist of that story, the point being that sex/race discrimination happens in universities all the time. Quite out in the open.

IME it's only a matter of time before this decision becomes, "If it's unconstitutional to discriminate on the basis of sex/race for admission, it's also unconstitutional to do it when it comes to employees."

Plus, someone will be a whisteblower somewhere. Somebody is going to secretly record a meeting at Harvard or somewhere in which it is obvious that they still admit on the basis of race.

Having a spouse in academia I can tell you that those people in general think they are above the law because they are a university. Not just Harvard...all of them. They'll be stupid and not careful, because they think they don't have to be, and this ruling will end up providing the basis for the fall that follows their pride. Mark my words.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 6:20 am
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5799 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 10:20 am to
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Whistleblowers


Harvard men are NOT whistle-blowers.
They're cock-blowers.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22957 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:27 am to
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But last Sunday at church someone mentioned the SC outlawing prayer in schools 60 years ago


You'll have to be more specific. They didnt "outlaw" prayer at school. Anyone could pray whenever they wanted. They "outlawed" school sponsored prayer. That's a big difference.

Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33928 posts
Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:56 am to
And they will open themselves up to some winnable lawsuits.
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