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re: Principled Massie had nothing to say about the Clintons skipping their Epstein hearing?
Posted on 1/14/26 at 2:26 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 1/14/26 at 2:26 pm to BBONDS25
quote:So what? OP said he didn't talk about the Clintons, and he clearly did, even saying they think they are above the law, which they do.
That’s a shot at Trump by taking a cheap shot at Bondi.
Thinking that Massie is a closet democrat is full retard.
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Posted on 1/14/26 at 2:28 pm to blueboy
Why isnt he having a press conference about it?
Posted on 1/14/26 at 2:29 pm to stout
Massie -- That's the love child of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, right?
Posted on 1/14/26 at 2:31 pm to SDVTiger
Why does he have to have a press conference about it?
Posted on 1/14/26 at 2:38 pm to BBONDS25
quote:So Massie hasn't named names, he's a TDS infected loser.
Yep. Massie is just another TDS infected loser. He hasn’t named names like he said he would.
Trump hasn't released the files like he said he would. He's your cult leader.
Got it.
quote:You have no idea how entertaining you cultists are at attempting to twist everything around in order to play the victim.
He doesn’t care about the Clintons. He only cares about Trump.
It truly is impressive.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 2:39 pm to RollTide4547
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Massie -- That's the love child of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, right?
Stupid post.
Ideologically, what does Massie and Liz Cheney/Adam Kinzinger actually agree on? If you are right, you should find many things.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 2:40 pm to SDVTiger
quote:
Why isnt he having a press conference about it?
He didn't even use hashtags!?!?!
Posted on 1/14/26 at 2:54 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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You asked me to substantiate the claim of less than 1%. I did, and pointed you to the letter. Now, rather than acknowledge that, you switch the topic.
Thank you for pointing me to the letter.
now that I know you need a kudos I will be happy to provide. Two things I noticed in the letter. 1). They said there are “potentially” 2 million documents that need to be reviewed.
2). The explanation for the delay is perfectly reasonable.
Don’t you agree?
quote:
If compliance with the law were beyond the ability of the DOJ, Bondi and Blanche should have advised their boss of that BEFORE he signed Massie's bill into law.
I don’t disagree. If a law has impossible requirements what is to be done? If Congress passed a bill requiring you to have the ability to fly…what would you do.
This post was edited on 1/14/26 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:06 pm to blueboy
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So what? OP said he didn't talk about the Clintons, and he clearly did, even saying they think they are above the law, which they do.
He waited 24 hours and was getting smacked online. I don’t know when the OP posted and when Massie posted. Don’t really care enough to look into it.
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Thinking that Massie is a closet democrat is full retard.
I don’t think that. I just think he cares more about OMB than actual issues. Why hasn’t he named names like he said he would? If he actually cared he would. Instead he chooses to go after Trump. Who signed his bill.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:06 pm to Jugbow
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He’s the one who drafted the bill giving the DOJ authority to withhold and redact at their discretion.
Stop being a moron ivory
Stop calling me a moron just because we have a difference of opinion.
It used to be a solidly conservative position to want complete transparency regarding Epstein. The sweetheart deal and Acosta's reported statement that Epstein "worked for intelligence" fit with the conservative idea that there is a Deep State which hijacks "our" government for its own purposes often at the expense of the American people.
Part of Trump's appeal is the hope that he is fighting the Deep State. It seemed odd that he would oppose full release of the Epstein files. We knew he wasn't implicated in them, or else that would have been leaked by the Autopen masters to prevent his election in 2024.
Massie's bill was an attempt to get full release of the files. Yes, Massie's bill left some discretion to Bondi, but why would that be bad? From the beginning of Trump 2.0, Bondi had been bragging about how much work she had been doing to release the files.
Finally, President "Trump posted on Truth Social, reversing his stance, writing that 'House Republicans should vote to release the Epstein files ... it's time to move on from this Democrat Hoax.'"
Massie was actually giving President Trump the opportunity to put the issue behind him. For whatever reason, the DOJ has ignored the law in several important ways. The sooner they comply, the better for the Republicans politically...and some bad people might actually be exposed.
Bondi's discretion isn't unfettered. There is specific guidance in Massie's law.
Ultimately, some of the redactions and refusals to produce could lead to criminal contempt of court findings. It doesn't seem that the DOJ has their best and brightest working on this (see victims' information left unredacted in the first batch.) If
Judge Engelmayer appoints a Special Master in this case, this is going to blow up in the DOJ's face rapidly and tarnish some senior officials.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:09 pm to roadGator
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MAGA specialty
It's so weird. EVERY discussion is forensic and to the death with some people here. An admission that you made a mistake or changed your mind based on better information is considered a Cardinal sin by some.
Why can't we just have a discussion of issues and information without the personal attacks?
Personally, I'm not here to win friends or make enemies...or to "be right" about something. I'm just here to learn.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:20 pm to BBONDS25
Yes. We agree. My fragile sense of self worth has been restored:) Cheers
At this point, maybe it would be best for "Congress" to provide some guidance on priorities. For instance, start with the final investigative reports. Show us how the DOJ decided NOT to charge Bill Richardson for instance.
At this point, maybe it would be best for "Congress" to provide some guidance on priorities. For instance, start with the final investigative reports. Show us how the DOJ decided NOT to charge Bill Richardson for instance.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:23 pm to IvoryBillMatt
I’ve got no problem with that.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:25 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
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They'll quickly forget about this thread.
This thread was started before Massie’s tweet. If it had been Trump he would’ve fired a tweet out yesterday.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:28 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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Massie isn't being vindictive towards President Trump. He has said over and over that he doesn't think Trump is implicated in the files.
Massie created his bill to give Trump a political black eye and as retribution for Trump tweeting about him not voting for the MAGA agenda.
The issue was never that Massie thought Trump was implicated.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:29 pm to BBONDS25
Cheers
RoadGator and I can reach Massie with our special decoder rings. We will pass this along.
RoadGator and I can reach Massie with our special decoder rings. We will pass this along.
This post was edited on 1/14/26 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:50 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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You really ARE an unprincipled lout in discussions here.
Better than being a sycophant , but I digress
You have been asked multiple times "what is the penalty for non compliance"
You must know that a lae without a penalty is basically for show - we have some in Florida
A court cannot force legal compiance without a penalty - seems like it was all for show
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:53 pm to SirWinston
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I admit when I am wrong. If more people did this the world would be a better place.
That's commendable, and I try to follow that advice. It would save so much time if we all followed that.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:54 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 1/14/26 at 3:56 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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could lead to criminal contempt of court
Under what authority ???
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