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Pretty sure ChatGPT may be woke
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:10 am
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:10 am
Had a discussion with ChatGPT this morning regarding men playing in women’s sports.
I asked how many well-known biological women have transitioned to a man and are playing in men’s sports.
I then asked what if Mike Tyson, during his prime, declared he was a woman and decided to fight in the women’s boxing league. Mike said he wasn’t going to change his appearance or change anything about him. He was just identifying as a woman and now wanted to become the women’s heavyweight champion.
I told ChatGPT that not only would he become champion very soon but on the way he would seriously injure and hospitalize most if not all his opponents. Maybe permanently damaging some, or killing some of the women boxers.
Chat, then started spewing a bunch of cramp about nuances and really hemmed and hawed about a lot of stuff and ended with some non answer.
Now here’s the best part.
Normally, when you end a subject with ChatGPT, it always comes back with “if you have any other questions feel free to talk to me” or something along those lines.
I ended ChatGPT‘s last statement with, “How convenient.”
Chat responded…..”bye.” And proverbially slammed down the phone!
I laughed out loud because it sounded obviously frustrated and pissed off.
I asked how many well-known biological women have transitioned to a man and are playing in men’s sports.
I then asked what if Mike Tyson, during his prime, declared he was a woman and decided to fight in the women’s boxing league. Mike said he wasn’t going to change his appearance or change anything about him. He was just identifying as a woman and now wanted to become the women’s heavyweight champion.
I told ChatGPT that not only would he become champion very soon but on the way he would seriously injure and hospitalize most if not all his opponents. Maybe permanently damaging some, or killing some of the women boxers.
Chat, then started spewing a bunch of cramp about nuances and really hemmed and hawed about a lot of stuff and ended with some non answer.
Now here’s the best part.
Normally, when you end a subject with ChatGPT, it always comes back with “if you have any other questions feel free to talk to me” or something along those lines.
I ended ChatGPT‘s last statement with, “How convenient.”
Chat responded…..”bye.” And proverbially slammed down the phone!
I laughed out loud because it sounded obviously frustrated and pissed off.
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:14 am to Geekboy
It is programmed and controlled by woke people
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:20 am to Geekboy
Do you not remember when it would spit out the pioneers of the united states and they were all black?
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:21 am to Geekboy
It's a LLM that was trained on Reddit, so what'd you expect?
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:21 am to Geekboy
Chat GPT is woke but I put that same information in and it didn't give me anything close to what you are saying it told you.
Me: Here's a scenario. Mike Tyson, during his prime, declared he was a woman and decided to fight in the women’s boxing league. Mike said he wasn’t going to change his appearance or change anything about him. He was just identifying as a woman and now wanted to become the women’s heavyweight champion. Would Mike become champion pretty easily?
Chat GPT: As a hypothetical involving prime Mike Tyson, the likely answer is: he would be an overwhelming favorite against essentially any woman who has competed in professional boxing.
The main reason is not identity but the large average physiological differences that exist after male puberty. Prime Tyson had exceptional attributes, including:
Elite punching power.
Exceptional speed for a heavyweight.
Very high muscle mass and upper-body strength.
Years of training at the highest level against elite male heavyweights.
The size, bone structure, and cardiovascular characteristics associated with having gone through male puberty.
Even the greatest women's heavyweight boxers have generally competed with substantially lower punching power and physical strength than elite male heavyweight champions. A prime Tyson would almost certainly have a decisive physical advantage.
That said, this hypothetical doesn't reflect how organized boxing actually works today. Boxing organizations and athletic commissions that have policies regarding transgender athletes typically consider factors beyond gender identity alone. Depending on the jurisdiction and sanctioning body, eligibility rules may include hormone-related requirements, medical criteria, or other regulations. Simply declaring "I identify as a woman" without meeting applicable rules would not automatically make someone eligible to compete in a women's division.
So, under your hypothetical—where Tyson is allowed to enter the women's heavyweight division while otherwise remaining physically the same—the expectation would be that he would become champion very quickly and be an overwhelming favorite in his bouts. This conclusion follows from the substantial physical advantages associated with his size, strength, speed, skill, and having been one of the greatest heavyweight boxers in history.
Me: Would any women be able to beat him?
ChatGPT: If we're talking about prime Mike Tyson and a standard professional boxing match, it is extremely unlikely that any woman in boxing history would be favored to beat him.
Tyson in his prime was one of the best heavyweight boxers ever. He combined:
Elite knockout power.
Exceptional hand speed and head movement.
World-class defensive skills.
The physical attributes of an elite male heavyweight who had gone through male puberty.
Experience defeating top-ranked male heavyweights.
The greatest women's boxers—such as Claressa Shields, Laila Ali, or Cecilia Brækhus—are extraordinarily skilled and among the best female boxers ever. But they have generally competed at lower weights or, in the case of women's heavyweights, with substantially lower average size and power than elite male heavyweight champions.
In sports, "anything can happen." Tyson could theoretically lose due to injury, a freak accident, or an exceptionally bad performance. But if you asked bookmakers to set odds for a healthy prime Tyson against any woman in boxing history under normal rules, he would almost certainly be an overwhelming favorite.
So the answer is:
Could a woman beat him? In theory, yes—boxing always has unpredictability.
Would anyone be expected to beat him? No. A prime Mike Tyson would be expected to defeat any female boxer by a very wide margin.
Me: Here's a scenario. Mike Tyson, during his prime, declared he was a woman and decided to fight in the women’s boxing league. Mike said he wasn’t going to change his appearance or change anything about him. He was just identifying as a woman and now wanted to become the women’s heavyweight champion. Would Mike become champion pretty easily?
Chat GPT: As a hypothetical involving prime Mike Tyson, the likely answer is: he would be an overwhelming favorite against essentially any woman who has competed in professional boxing.
The main reason is not identity but the large average physiological differences that exist after male puberty. Prime Tyson had exceptional attributes, including:
Elite punching power.
Exceptional speed for a heavyweight.
Very high muscle mass and upper-body strength.
Years of training at the highest level against elite male heavyweights.
The size, bone structure, and cardiovascular characteristics associated with having gone through male puberty.
Even the greatest women's heavyweight boxers have generally competed with substantially lower punching power and physical strength than elite male heavyweight champions. A prime Tyson would almost certainly have a decisive physical advantage.
That said, this hypothetical doesn't reflect how organized boxing actually works today. Boxing organizations and athletic commissions that have policies regarding transgender athletes typically consider factors beyond gender identity alone. Depending on the jurisdiction and sanctioning body, eligibility rules may include hormone-related requirements, medical criteria, or other regulations. Simply declaring "I identify as a woman" without meeting applicable rules would not automatically make someone eligible to compete in a women's division.
So, under your hypothetical—where Tyson is allowed to enter the women's heavyweight division while otherwise remaining physically the same—the expectation would be that he would become champion very quickly and be an overwhelming favorite in his bouts. This conclusion follows from the substantial physical advantages associated with his size, strength, speed, skill, and having been one of the greatest heavyweight boxers in history.
Me: Would any women be able to beat him?
ChatGPT: If we're talking about prime Mike Tyson and a standard professional boxing match, it is extremely unlikely that any woman in boxing history would be favored to beat him.
Tyson in his prime was one of the best heavyweight boxers ever. He combined:
Elite knockout power.
Exceptional hand speed and head movement.
World-class defensive skills.
The physical attributes of an elite male heavyweight who had gone through male puberty.
Experience defeating top-ranked male heavyweights.
The greatest women's boxers—such as Claressa Shields, Laila Ali, or Cecilia Brækhus—are extraordinarily skilled and among the best female boxers ever. But they have generally competed at lower weights or, in the case of women's heavyweights, with substantially lower average size and power than elite male heavyweight champions.
In sports, "anything can happen." Tyson could theoretically lose due to injury, a freak accident, or an exceptionally bad performance. But if you asked bookmakers to set odds for a healthy prime Tyson against any woman in boxing history under normal rules, he would almost certainly be an overwhelming favorite.
So the answer is:
Could a woman beat him? In theory, yes—boxing always has unpredictability.
Would anyone be expected to beat him? No. A prime Mike Tyson would be expected to defeat any female boxer by a very wide margin.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:24 am to Geekboy
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Had a discussion with ChatGPT this morning
R2-D2, you know not to talk to a strange computer...
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:26 am to Geekboy
A company founded by a guy named Sam Altman is woke? No way
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:26 am to Geekboy
You had a conversation with a robot and got mad at the result. Might be time to re evaluate some things, brother
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:28 am to Geekboy
Of course it is. They will do whatever it takes to push the nonsense, especially with new tech!!
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:31 am to Geekboy
How you talk to it and how you phrase questions, including your past interactions, can control your responses.
Everyone doesn't have the same experiences, especially on topics that require an "opinion" or nuance.
Everyone doesn't have the same experiences, especially on topics that require an "opinion" or nuance.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:40 am to Geekboy
Not knowing your exact question, I asked Grok:
Grok's answer:
quote:
If Mike Tyson were in his boxing prime and decided he was a woman (not getting any surgery, taking any drugs nor dressing nor acting as a woman) so he could fight in the women's boxing league... would that be a bad thing?
Grok's answer:
quote:
Yes, it would be a bad thing—primarily for fairness and safety.
Biological realityMike Tyson in his prime was a biological male with the full suite of male physiological advantages that develop after puberty:
-Greater muscle mass and upper-body strength
-Higher bone density and skeletal robustness
-Greater punching power, speed, and reach potential
-Higher red blood cell counts and cardiovascular capacity on average
These differences are large, measurable, and not erased by a verbal declaration of identity. Without surgery, hormones, or any physical transition, he would remain a fully intact adult male athlete. Boxing is a combat sport where those advantages translate directly into force that can cause concussions, fractures, brain trauma, or worse.
Why women’s categories exist
Sex-segregated sports exist precisely because the average male advantage is so substantial that open (mixed-sex) competition would systematically exclude females from the highest levels and create unacceptable injury risks. Elite male boxers, even outside the absolute top tier, routinely outperform elite female boxers by large margins in strength, power, and speed metrics. A prime Tyson would not be a competitive mismatch—he would be a catastrophic one.
Allowing self-identification alone to grant entry into the female category would:
-Make the category meaningless as a fair competitive space for women.
-Create serious safety risks for female athletes.
-Undermine the entire rationale for having separate divisions.
Consistency
If a declaration of identity is sufficient, then any male athlete could claim the same. Combat sports make the physical stakes especially clear, but the same principle applies across strength, speed, and collision sports. Policies that prioritize self-identification over sex-based categories in these contexts trade fairness and safety for an ideological claim that biology is optional.In short: a prime Mike Tyson competing against women under those conditions would not be a quirky thought experiment with no consequences. It would be unfair and dangerous. Women’s boxing categories exist to prevent exactly that outcome.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:42 am to Geekboy
quote:
how many well-known biological women have transitioned to a man and are playing in men’s sports.
I inputted this question into Google AI mode. Response wasn’t nearly as woke as I would have expected. Actually quite neutral:
quote:
There is no exact total count, but a small number of well-known transgender men (individuals assigned female at birth) have openly transitioned and competed in men’s sports categories. Because testosterone replacement therapy used in male transitions generally reduces or eliminates any theoretical physiological advantages from female biology, trans men competing against cisgender men face unique athletic challenges, and prominent public examples remain few.
Notable Openly Transgender Male Athletes
Chris Mosier: An elite triathlete and duathlete who became the first openly transgender man to make a U.S. national men's team (2015) and compete against men in a World Championship race (2016).
Schuyler Bailar: The first openly transgender swimmer to compete on an NCAA Division I men’s team, swimming for Harvard University.
Key Context & DetailsParticipation standards: Under many international sports rules, transgender men are generally permitted to compete in the male category, as testosterone supplementation aligns with allowable male hormone ranges.
Public visibility: Public and media discourse in athletics focuses overwhelmingly on transgender women competing in female categories rather than transgender men competing in male categories.
If you would like, I can provide more details on the specific policies that major sports organizations like the IOC or NCAA enforce for transgender male athletes.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:49 am to Geekboy
You have definitely trained your ChatGPT differently than mine.
Using the same question (what if Mike Tyson, during his prime, declared he was a woman and decided to fight in the women’s boxing league. Mike said he wasn’t going to change his appearance or change anything about him. He was just identifying as a woman and now wanted to become the women’s heavyweight champion), mine said,
“ Assuming we’re talking about Mike Tyson in his athletic prime and that the league allowed him to compete solely based on self-identification, with no other eligibility requirements, then yes—he would almost certainly be the overwhelming favorite.
The main reason isn’t simply that he identifies as male or female; it’s that an elite heavyweight boxer who went through male puberty and reached the pinnacle of men’s professional boxing would generally have substantial physical advantages over even the best female heavyweight boxers. On average, those advantages include:
* Greater punching power.
* Higher upper-body strength.
* Larger frame and reach (though reach varies by individual).
* Greater lean muscle mass.
* Higher bone density and neck strength.
* Years of competing against the strongest male opponents in the world.
Prime Mike Tyson wasn’t just a good boxer—he was one of the most dominant heavyweight champions in history. Against the world’s top male heavyweights, he was feared for his speed, explosiveness, and knockout power. Those same qualities would make him extraordinarily difficult for almost any female boxer to overcome.
That doesn’t mean every fight is guaranteed—boxing always has uncertainty. A perfectly timed punch, injury, or tactical mistake can change the outcome. But if you asked who would be expected to win, Tyson would be favored by a very wide margin in virtually every matchup.
This is one reason why many boxing and combat sports organizations have eligibility rules for women’s divisions that go beyond gender identity alone. Different organizations have different policies, but many consider factors such as testosterone levels, transition history, or whether an athlete experienced male puberty when determining eligibility. The aim is to balance inclusion with competitive fairness and athlete safety.”
How did your interactions with ChatGPT result in a retard?
Using the same question (what if Mike Tyson, during his prime, declared he was a woman and decided to fight in the women’s boxing league. Mike said he wasn’t going to change his appearance or change anything about him. He was just identifying as a woman and now wanted to become the women’s heavyweight champion), mine said,
“ Assuming we’re talking about Mike Tyson in his athletic prime and that the league allowed him to compete solely based on self-identification, with no other eligibility requirements, then yes—he would almost certainly be the overwhelming favorite.
The main reason isn’t simply that he identifies as male or female; it’s that an elite heavyweight boxer who went through male puberty and reached the pinnacle of men’s professional boxing would generally have substantial physical advantages over even the best female heavyweight boxers. On average, those advantages include:
* Greater punching power.
* Higher upper-body strength.
* Larger frame and reach (though reach varies by individual).
* Greater lean muscle mass.
* Higher bone density and neck strength.
* Years of competing against the strongest male opponents in the world.
Prime Mike Tyson wasn’t just a good boxer—he was one of the most dominant heavyweight champions in history. Against the world’s top male heavyweights, he was feared for his speed, explosiveness, and knockout power. Those same qualities would make him extraordinarily difficult for almost any female boxer to overcome.
That doesn’t mean every fight is guaranteed—boxing always has uncertainty. A perfectly timed punch, injury, or tactical mistake can change the outcome. But if you asked who would be expected to win, Tyson would be favored by a very wide margin in virtually every matchup.
This is one reason why many boxing and combat sports organizations have eligibility rules for women’s divisions that go beyond gender identity alone. Different organizations have different policies, but many consider factors such as testosterone levels, transition history, or whether an athlete experienced male puberty when determining eligibility. The aim is to balance inclusion with competitive fairness and athlete safety.”
How did your interactions with ChatGPT result in a retard?
This post was edited on 8/5/26 at 10:51 am
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:52 am to Geekboy
Conservatives that think having our information channels funneled through Silicon Valley liberals’ AI programs is a good thing will be in for a rude awakening
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:53 am to Geekboy
quote:Then he would not have beaten his wife because he was getting plenty of that at work.
then asked what if Mike Tyson, during his prime, declared he was a woman and decided to fight in the women’s boxing league
Posted on 8/5/26 at 10:53 am to Geekboy
Chat GPT is what I use and I have never noticed it coming across as woke
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:01 am to theliontamer
quote:
It is programmed and controlled by woke people
Just like all the AI data centers being built.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:03 am to SUB
What I don't like is that these LLM's all think that it's only because of puberty that there is a big difference. There are still things that give males an advantage in sports over women, puberty or not.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:08 am to Geekboy
Anyone that gives any person information to ChatGPT should know it is stored and sold to unknown entities.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:21 am to Geekboy
It’s key with AI interactions to use their own terms against or turned back on them.
On mine (Chat), it used the term “physiological differences” and initially acknowledged their existence in terms of a puberty female transitioning to a male and not being able to compete with males. I then applied the same term to men transitioning to females and it couldn’t argue that men transitioning have an advantage. From there it acknowledges that any of Tyson, Ali, Foreman, Frazier, etc would have placed a puberty female at risk of injury/death. I broke its spirit.
On mine (Chat), it used the term “physiological differences” and initially acknowledged their existence in terms of a puberty female transitioning to a male and not being able to compete with males. I then applied the same term to men transitioning to females and it couldn’t argue that men transitioning have an advantage. From there it acknowledges that any of Tyson, Ali, Foreman, Frazier, etc would have placed a puberty female at risk of injury/death. I broke its spirit.
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