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re: President* Biden: If you make less than $400,000 per year...!

Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18181 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:45 pm to
$401k a year is considered at the very top?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:45 pm to
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That is not a rate, that is a ratio.

Nothing seems tragic to you because you don't understand the numbers.
Right, a typo means I don't understand.

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The top 1% pays an "effective" 25% federal income tax rate.

The bottom 50% pay about 0-1%.

So the top 1% of earners federal tax rate is 25 times greater then the bottom 50%. That is a progressive tax rate. See how this works.
Oh, now we see that YOU don't understand the numbers.

The entire point I was making is people always throw out bullshite like you did completely devoid of context. What should be compared (as I did) is what % of national income did each group ear. It sounds egregious when you say "the top 1% pay 40% of all income taxes! They're paying 40X!!!!). No, they're paying 2X, since the earn 20% of the income. You don't have to agree with me that 2:1 is an acceptable level of taxation for the top 1%, but I think it's obvious that it's certainly way less dramatic than the attempt at poorly (I would argue dishonestly) framing it.

I'm in the 1% and I couldn't give a shite. I would never change places with the bottom 50 just because they don't pay big income taxes. Know what else they don't do? Earn big income.
Posted by midnight_chopper
Member since Mar 2018
718 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:46 pm to
Interesting. What is the presidential salary these days?
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15535 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:50 pm to
Paid almost $10 bucks yesterday for three chicken breasts for the chicken Parm I made.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66936 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:54 pm to
Everything he says is a lie, just roll the videos upon videos of proof.
This post was edited on 9/13/21 at 8:55 pm
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27217 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:59 pm to
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This is why our business just purchased a property to develop. Anything we make above whatever threshold the Dems set where they take all your money, we will just invest it in the property the business owns. I'm sure we aren't the only ones who will do something similar.
Well this is certainly an economic shocker. The hard working people with money figured out a way to keep their money and the lazy people without money still haven't figured out the super secret strategy on how make money.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120222 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 9:04 pm to
He’s a derelict who hopes one day to sell legal weed

It’s satisfaction knowing everyone in his life likely thinks he’s a loser
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 9:06 pm to
High 3’s FTMFW
Posted by OSqueal
Member since Jan 2011
5969 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 9:19 pm to
You like what? Lip service from an 80 yo man? Not surprising.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 9:36 pm to
Wait til he adds a tax to any combination of 401k's, IRAs and Roth IRAs valued at more than 400k.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5798 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 9:49 pm to
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You don't have to agree with me that 2:1 is an acceptable level of taxation for the top 1%,


I don't agree.

The United States has one of, if not the most, progressive tax systems in the industrialized World. It is good to know that you find this acceptable.
This post was edited on 9/13/21 at 9:54 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86387 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 9:53 pm to
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I like this.


Lol, you also like stolen elections.

Please explain to me how Biden’s tax plan helps you?

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86387 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 9:56 pm to
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400k is hardly the top. It's basically what's needed to raise a family of 5


Maybe, looking at what they say for Louisiana, a two income household at minimum wage can raise a child out of poverty. You might not be comfortable everywhere at that. But you can survive.

When you move to more children one of you need to make more than $7.25/hr



This post was edited on 9/13/21 at 9:58 pm
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29858 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 10:03 pm to
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Jeff Bezos can easily live on less than $400K a year. Just ask his tax accountant

Yu are claiming bezos didn't pay any PERSONAL taxes?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29858 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 10:12 pm to
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The very highest earners pay "progessive" at a 2:1 rate? Doesn't seem tragic to me.


Maybe you don't actually know the definition of the word "fair".

You also don't know how to do math. If one guy pays 40% and another pays 4%...thats 10:1, not 2:1

Also, me and a dude down the road making a million a year receive the exact same value from our paid taxes. Why should he pay anymore?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29858 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 10:18 pm to
Who gives a shite what they pay proportional to the total intake at a national level?

Taxes are specific to people. Individual people.

If one guy pays 40% and another pays 4%....first guy pays 10 times more.

Don't be dishonest
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

Who gives a shite what they pay proportional to the total intake at a national level?

Taxes are specific to people. Individual people.

If one guy pays 40% and another pays 4%....first guy pays 10 times more.

Don't be dishonest
I think you're very confused.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63025 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 12:08 am to
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If you make less than $400,000 per year, I’ll never raise your taxes one penny.


But I'll raise corporate taxes! We all know they would never pass those costs on to YOU!
Posted by VBFlorida
Florida
Member since Nov 2020
1338 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 5:57 am to
So don't study hard, get a relevant job. Work 12-14 hour days. Be productive to society and prosper. Say Frick it
and become a
tick on the Govt dole or a politician and support Socialism Comrades!
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30928 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:09 am to
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Worked that way for his kids.



They paid little to no taxes on their I'll gotten gains.
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