re: President* Biden: A strong European Union is in America’s interest!

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Both of those devils would have come for us sooner or later

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Up next on the History Channel!

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The US could have easily come in as the strongest position and mediated the conflict

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Germany and Japan had war machines in action and were in Empire building mode. We weren’t in position in 1940 to mediate anything as if they would listened. FWIW, if we negotiated terms to stay out, the Germans would have split the atom first and that’s another issue to deal with.

Give the Germans and Japanese free reign from 1939 to 1949 and I’d bet they would give Stalin and mao a run for their money.

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But because Stalin and Mao killed Russians and Chinese

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And Germans, Poles, etc. Don't forget that.

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Is what I said not the truth?

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Not even close. It's really more of a product of comic books, television, and other forms of entertainment than it is based on any kind of objective data.

The problem is that any time people start getting into the details of the period, narratives start breaking down rapidly.

Since the WWII mythology is literally more powerful than the Christian faith in this country, most people prefer to leave it alone, narrative management is mostly on auto pilot now.

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The middle and working classes of America subsidize European welfare states because we pay for the defenses they themselves should be paying for. We do this because it's essentially a taxpayer subsidy to defense contractors and the MIC.

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People keep saying this, but I don’t see the evidence for it. The European security theater was made worse by American intervention in Iraq, as that was the thing that broke the barely functioning refugee system. Most Europeans were against that war.

What decreases European security costs is the fact that two of the biggest traditional powers, France and Germany, are aligned in an economic union. The other major geopolitical hotspot is the frontier between Germany and Poland, and that too has been smoothed away by economic union.

It seems insane to suggest that the US supplements European security, as the security situation differs significantly for each country. The thing that made the security situation worse was the US’s ill-advised foray into Iraq. Otherwise, European security budgets aren’t indirectly or directly reliant on US military spending, as the major concern in terms of security would be internal, which significantly cheapens the hardware requirements. Mexico is a good example. Because it is directly under the US security umbrella, it spends only 7 billion on its military, as its focus is internal security. The same is true of the EU, though the degree to which they are in the US security umbrella depends on your point of view.

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Reminder that American isolationism did nothing except cause us to go into two world wars entirely unprepared to do so.

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Who said anything about isolationism? You don't have to isolate yourself as a country to discontinue footing the bill for another continent's defense.

Democracies vs ‘Autocracies’ - the new, made up buzzword to avoid plain old Dictatorship and Communists.

What a bunch of duplicitous dirt-bag doublespeak...

Any day now... his social media team will tweet out... 'war is peace'. They're getting closer, imo.


How is a few unelected assholes controlling multiple European countries...in our best interest?

Moving further in...

How are unelected assholes who control Biden... in our best interest?

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Do many of our alliances need restructuring and more input from our partners? Yes. But pretending that we don’t benefit from having allies and from being able to forward position our military half a world away is pure folly.

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