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re: President* Biden: A strong European Union is in America’s interest!
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:26 pm to ChuckO1975
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:26 pm to ChuckO1975
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Good for you. Hopefully more Americans and Europeans see it differently in the future.
What? Your posts have made no sense. You’re trying to pretend like I’m saying America should intervene all over the place and participate in all conflicts—however that’s the opposite of what I believe.
I guess youre never going to explain how we could have easily stayed out of the Second World War?
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Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:30 pm to SCLibertarian
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My position is that any politician who supports sending American kids to die to stop Russia from invading Latvia or Estonia should be immediately voted out of office and then tarred and feathered.
Stop Russia?? The Russian Army would be parked on the coast of the Baltic Sea before sleepy Joe wakes from his afternoon nap. The mission would be to make them leave.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:31 pm to Indefatigable
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Wait so your position is that we wouldn’t respond with force to the military invasion of a NATO country?
It depends on which NATO nation. Europe is gutless and has no desire to tangle with Russia / China.
Now if it is Germany, France, England, Italy, or Spain being invaded...I’m sure even the Biden regime would act.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:33 pm to SCLibertarian
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My position is that any politician who supports sending American kids to die to stop Russia from invading Latvia or Estonia should be immediately voted out of office and then tarred and feathered.
I don’t know what to tell you then. Alliances are not new to global politics, and they are never going anywhere.
Whatever it is that you want from our foreign policy is clearly not pragmatic and is utterly impossible. Why even discuss such pie in the sky solutions?
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:33 pm to Indefatigable
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What? Your posts have made no sense
If you don't see it, it's not for you.
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I guess youre never going to explain how we could have easily stayed out of the Second World War?
Let's see if we can activate your nugget here: You do what you did before you joined the war effort.
No 5,000 page explanation required.
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You’re trying to pretend like I’m saying America should intervene all over the place
American involvement in the World Wars was exactly the product of "intervening all over the place", and especially in Asia WRT WWII. If you don't get that, let's just end this conversation.
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however that’s the opposite of what I believe.
Then you don't understand the world wars at all. It's as simple as that.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:33 pm to Seldom Seen
This fricking guy talking about autocracies. 
There's that projection the left is famous for.
There's that projection the left is famous for.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:35 pm to ChuckO1975
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Let's see if we can activate your nugget here: You do what you did before you joined the war effort.
I’d like you to explain how we would have “kept doing what we did before the we joined the war effort” after Pearl Harbor.
I’ll await your “but we shouldn’t have imposed sanctions on Japan” or “shouldn’t have shipped war supplies to Britain” as if either of those two things actually got us into the war
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:36 pm to Indefatigable
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Whatever it is that you want from our foreign policy is clearly not pragmatic and it utterly impossible
More History Channel garbage.
Fueling a European dispute by siding with not one, but TWO communist powers, adding fuel to a fire that was FAR more likely to burn out prior to US involvement is not some God Ordained policy decision. The US had the opportunity to play mediator, as the most powerful and protected actor, but chose to stoke conflict at every single turn in the Pacific and Atlantic.
You might have to read more detailed histories of the war era to actually understand this.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:39 pm to ChuckO1975
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More History Channel garbage.
What are you even talking about? I haven’t had a cable subscription in two decades.
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You might have to read more detailed histories of the war era to actually understand this.
True, you’ve demonstrated your vast historical knowledge in this thread so I guess I’ll differ to you
And btw, still waiting on your explanation for how the US would have avoided the Second World War.
Please educate me. I’m begging you.
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:39 pm to Indefatigable
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I’d like you to explain how we would have “kept doing what we did before the we joined the war effort” after Pearl Harbor.
I’ll await your “but we shouldn’t have imposed sanctions on Japan” or “shouldn’t have shipped war supplies to Britain” as if either of those two things actually got us into the war
These were acts of war, sorry if you can't understand that. Given your nuanced understanding of foreign policy and alliances, I'd find that shocking.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:41 pm to ChuckO1975
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These were acts of war, sorry if you can't understand that. Given your nuanced understanding of foreign policy and alliances, I'd find that shocking.
I do not find it shocking that you have again refused to answer the question.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:41 pm to Indefatigable
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True, you’ve demonstrated your vast historical knowledge in this thread so I guess I’ll differ to you
When see someone say "if the EU didn't benefit Europe, they wouldn't have one", I should just immediately move on instead of wasting time talking about even more shite he doesn't understand.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:42 pm to Indefatigable
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please go on and explain to the class how we stay out of the Second World War.
Lol wut? Easily, all we did was help kill 200 million people by securing half the globe for Mao and Stalin, if anything we were on the wrong side.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:42 pm to Seldom Seen
Did not England, our staunchest ally, break from the EU?
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:43 pm to ChuckO1975
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When see someone say "if the EU didn't benefit Europe, they wouldn't have one", I should just immediately move on instead of wasting time talking about even more shite he doesn't understand.
Out of context quotes are awesome considering I said that if it wasn’t in their best interest they would ditch it, but nice non-sequitur anyways.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:43 pm to Indefatigable
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do not find it shocking that you have again refused to answer the question.
"how do you NOT do something?"
These are the really dumb questions that should immediately make me disengage. Enjoy your weekend.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:44 pm to ChuckO1975
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These are the really dumb questions that should immediately make me disengage. Enjoy your weekend.
And yet, not once have you given a single explanation of how we could have actually avoided WW2.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:45 pm to Strannix
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Easily
Well go on then, tell us how.
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:46 pm to Strannix
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Lol wut? Easily, all we did was help kill 200 million people by securing half the globe for Mao and Stalin, if anything we were on the wrong side.
No, you don't understand. If the war wasn't good, we wouldn't have done it!
-EU defender guy
Sarcasm aside, it's pointless arguing with a clown who thinks that exterminating huge numbers of some of the most productive people on earth in European wars, then handing the keys to genocidal commies, only to fight endless wars in the aftermath was the "last legit military action". He can't draw any meaningful connections here. He really and truly needs to believe something divine was at play in the second world war.
A lot of people felt like that after WWI too. Turned out great, of course.
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 3/26/21 at 5:46 pm to DMAN1968
And not having other countries with military and economic assets that are democracy's left on the sidelines? No one agrees with that. We are better off with like minded friends supporting us
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