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re: Prediction: By August 31, Kamala will be leading in the polls

Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:26 am to
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:26 am to
I agree. I predicted this last week

She’s the golden knight on the horse and every celebrity and middle aged woman love her

Now rumors she will take over as President to get experience. Yall saying this is in the bag are crazy

This will be a dogfight
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37265 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:26 am to
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I would add that a head-to-head poll of Trump and Harris, or any Democrat, isn't the correct way to look at the race either. We know there will be 5 candidates. Trump, the Dem, RFK Jr., Cornel West, and Jill Stein.


Good point. It is frustrating that the media, and most of the polling firms, push the head to head polling (both in the states and nationally).

It isn't a head to head election. Numbers without considering those other candidates (small though their support may be) are worthless.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:26 am to
I don't doubt it - They aren't going to let Trump win.

Unfortunately now we have a true marxist in Kamala - When she wins it's going to get much much worse.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23079 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:27 am to
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If you think polling forced Biden out, you’re unbelievably naive.


I think he meant they manipulated the polls so they then had an excuse to force Biden out.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:27 am to
Trump +15--20.
Posted by Mister Flawless
Tuscaloosa
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:33 am to
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The main message being sent out in the last 24 hours has been: "The polls indicate that voters see the economy as the main issue. Biden was burdened with that. Kamala is a fresh, clean candidate with no connection to the economy." If there is a debate between Trump and Kamala she will use that. Every time Trump mentions inflation Kamala can dismiss it. She will have a much tougher time dismissing the border, which is the 2nd biggest issue with voters.


What’s the counter to them promoting every bill or EO as from the “Biden-Harris Administration” the last 3 1/2 years?

Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7831 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:35 am to
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I would add that a head-to-head poll of Trump and Harris, or any Democrat, isn't the correct way to look at the race either. We know there will be 5 candidates. Trump, the Dem, RFK Jr., Cornel West, and Jill Stein.

The 3 minor candidates all will pull votes with RFK getting the most. The two 5-way polls, including one last week before the convenion, has Trump +5 on Harris.


There is some disagreement amongst pollsters on this.

The reality is that third party candidates generally poll well above what they do in the election (with only Perot being an outlier). The reality is there are a significant number of voters who respond to polls saying they'll go 3rd party, but when it comes to election day they either don't show up or vote for the "lesser of 2 evils" from the major parties.

For example, according to 270 to win the final 2020 polls had Biden at 51%, Trump at 43% and other candidates getting 6%.

But on election day, Biden got 51%, Trump got 46% and the third party candidates only got 3%.

Probably the best projection is to poll both with and without the 3rd party candidates, but divide their polled support in half and assign it based on how the votes went between the 2-candidate and all-candidate polls changed.

If you go into more detail, most of the votes the 3rd party candidates get end up being in states that aren't in play. It's easier to vote 3rd party if you know that your state will go Red or Blue ahead of time.

If you look at the last election, none of the states that were within 3-points either direction had more than 1.5% of the state vote go to third party candidates. The closest states with more that 1.5% going third party were Alaska (+10 to the GOP) and New Hampshire (+7 to the Democrats).

Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:35 am to
Interesting how you describe her potential Presidential “talent”
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19271 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:38 am to
You do realize that in those positions as DA & AG she had zero actual qualifications and as those titles allowed to do no actual trial work
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102653 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:55 am to
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its not going to be close


Correct. Kamala is going to wipe the floor with Trump
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19454 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:57 am to
Maybe so. But if she truly is a conservative she doesn't want a retard in office regardless if she/he possesses a vagina.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25832 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:16 am to
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1 - She has her VP selection.


I'm sure it will be someone equally as unpopular and incompetent. Mayor Pete?
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10330 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:24 am to
Kamala is a horrible candidate and has abysmal approval ratings.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91073 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:25 am to
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Correct. Kamala is going to wipe the floor with Trump


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH

you are the same pussy who gave up on trump last time huh? and made yourself look stupid. I wish i had still bookmarked that thread. the admins locked it it was so bad.


you are emotional like a woman


Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91073 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:26 am to
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and every celebrity and middle aged woman love her



stop watching the view clown
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143791 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:26 am to
I don’t think so. The more she is on the stump, the more people will see what a horrible person she is.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117562 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:27 am to
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What’s the counter to them promoting every bill or EO as from the “Biden-Harris Administration” the last 3 1/2 years?


Harris will say she was not involved. Her job was to support the President and now she's free to be her own person.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7831 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:29 am to
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Interesting how you describe her potential Presidential “talent”


I don't think I expressed a view on her talent.

In general I think the people who make the best presidents follow a similar path to what makes the best college football coaches.

It's mostly about recruiting talent and hiring great staff. Actual personal "ability" means very little.

The US works best when a President surrounds himself with extremely talented people and instead of driving things just makes the "go/no go" calls.

I think Nixon for example was one of the smartest and most competent men we ever had as a US president. But he surrounded himself with a lot of criminals and yes men. The talented men he had around him he often ignored (except for Kissinger) or fired. Like when he fired AG Elliot Richardson and deputy AG William Rucklehaus because they refused to fire the special prosecutor investigating Watergate... in order to get to a "yes man" in Robert Bork who would do what he wanted.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91073 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:30 am to
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you are looking at aggregated popular vote polls.

its not going to be close


Posted by YMCA
It's Fun to Stay
Member since May 2011
5123 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:32 am to
I wonder if the Dem voting 18-24yo’s will remember this quote on TV by heels:

“What else do we know about this population, 18 through 24? They are stupid. That is why we put them in dormitories. And they have a resident assistant. They make really bad decisions.”
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