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re: Populism (and Dobbs) is the basis for "muh democracy" rants and ravings from the DEMs
Posted on 11/5/22 at 9:55 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 11/5/22 at 9:55 am to AggieHank86
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Maybe I did not make my point very well. Our original system worked as you envision (and as I think we both would see is ideal) because the constituencies were small enough to actually debate the issues.
No, it was crystal clear and correct.
But there other issues that just pure scale. The 17th Amendment for instance.
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Posted on 11/5/22 at 9:56 am to deltaland
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Those excluded votes are from fraudulent votes.
Some? Likely.
All? No.
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But somehow requiring it to vote is oppressive.
I told you why it's considered oppressive and one-sided. It disproportionately affects DEMs.
That's a fact.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 9:56 am to SlowFlowPro
Beat you to it.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 9:56 am to the808bass
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Keep their religion to themselves.
shite
Should have said a post instead of a page
Posted on 11/5/22 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/5/22 at 9:58 am to Geauxgurt
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In contrast, the Dems are pushing the potential legalization of Pedophilia in some cases
Do the pedos get to feed the children some of the excess fentanyl-laced candy from 2022 Halloween after?
This "point" just shows that your perception of all of this cultural rot may be amplified somewhat and not reflective of society.
But, to bring it back to OP, shows the absolute need for "cultural rot" for the populist-right.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:It was inevitable. This is a fast moving thread.quote:shite. Should have said a post instead of a page
Keep their religion to themselves.
Twice, posters have made the stupid points that I anticipated, before I even finished typing the post anticipating them.
Yours was number three.
This post was edited on 11/5/22 at 10:03 am
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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Also, go read my exchange with Steve about how you're likely ignoring your own institutionally-created biases.
You’d have a point if I actually watched the news but I don’t. If we were to get into my individual views on each subject you’d find I don’t align much with either party. I’m more of a strict constitutionalist. Ron Paul is probably the closest national politician I can relate my views to
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:03 am to deltaland
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You’d have a point if I actually watched the news but I don’t.
The news isn't the only institution that affects/guides people
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:05 am to goatmilker
Reads to me like a whole lotta projection and wishful progressive thinking...
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:06 am to SlowFlowPro
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OK well churches are the ones driving it's to protect life. Your opinion is now invalid.
I’m actually impressed you didn’t use your go to “straw man” argument
Yes or no, if the current administration propose a 20 week abortion ban would it pass? The “stats” also clearly show that much more than 60% of America is for that.
This post was edited on 11/5/22 at 10:11 am
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:08 am to STEVED00
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I’m actually impressed you didn’t use your go to “straw man” argument
I gave you plenty of opportunity to avoid making yourself an NPC
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:10 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I dislike this term. The posters on this thread all believe that they are thinking for themselves, just as the “dem NPCs” believe for themselves.
I gave you plenty of opportunity to avoid making yourself an NPC
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's regressive and illiberal, which is a big deal in a democracy that's been progressing for 230+ years.
I don’t believe all of our “progress” has been positive and I don’t view Federalism as regressive. Big Government Authoritarians hate it, however.
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Again, this is also a thread about perception.
Which is why I asked if they were stupid.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:12 am to AggieHank86
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The posters on this thread all believe that they are thinking for themselves, just as the “dem NPCs” believe for themselves
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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I gave you plenty of opportunity to avoid making yourself an NPC
is that you’re new go to argument? Yes or no if current admin proposes a 20 week abortion ban does it pass? The stats say vast majority of America is agrees late term abortion is definitely wrong And the vast majority of the rest of the world has this policy.
Also if you don’t understand there are easy solutions to but both sides WANT us to fight about then the joke is actually on you.
This post was edited on 11/5/22 at 10:15 am
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:14 am to SlowFlowPro
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predominant rise in the populist right
Right wing progressivism.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:15 am to Antonio Moss
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Constitutional protections (or the lack there of) not subject to the whims of the majority is the anthesis of democracy. We don’t have a democracy.
Which is why I put “democratic” in quotes. I think he was saying that people believe their voice is no longer part of the equation for abortion, and that would make those people ill-informed.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:15 am to Flats
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I don’t believe all of our “progress” has been positive
That's the underlying argument of the cultural policies of right-populists.
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Which is why I asked if they were stupid.
Part of a liberal democracy is a belief in strong protections of personal rights. You don't see how removing perceived personal rights could be seen as being anti-democratic?
Posted on 11/5/22 at 10:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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First, I suggest everyone listen to Ezra Klein's podcast
Stopped reading.
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