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re: Pizzagate/Comet Ping Pong Gunman Shot & Killed During NC Traffic Stop

Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:19 am to
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:19 am to
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They use the "it was reported" to indicate some validity or authority, when really the "reports" were unfounded CT nonsense.



This is sort of like how Democrats feed an erroneous story to the Washington Post, they report it, then the same Democrat uses the Washington Post story to validate his position.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:20 am to
This thread should push Slow Fanni Pro over 450K posts.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:20 am to
Lady G should just come out the closet. Oh wait he would lose in SC...
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:21 am to
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 Too bad there isn't a single thread where it could all have gone
Having that thread back would be great for laughs at all of the lunacy contained within. The pope's arrest, JFK Jr's return, the Hillary frog marching, Tom Hanks in Guantanamo, the military capture of Dominion servers in Europe, Trump running the whole show "in exile", his return to the White House in August of 2021 and the Storm.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:21 am to
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I believe Welch was a North Carolina native, so the transmission of the AR he used across state lines to commit the crime is where that got drummed up.


"Drummed up" as in, proven without any doubt? He pled, nontheless

He also pled guilty to assault with a dangerous weapon.

I'll dot connect for you, though. LINK

quote:

He was sentenced by the Honorable Ketanji Brown Jackson.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:22 am to
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This is sort of like how Democrats feed an erroneous story to the Washington Post, they report it, then the same Democrat uses the Washington Post story to validate his position.


Without the Washington Post part, where CTs just create bullshite and spread it online, which they then reference as evidence.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:22 am to
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Then, by default, any insane conspiracy theory can neve be declared to be false.


It is not the media's job to declare things true or false. It is their job to report.

If I were a reporter and write a story on the JFK assassination. Regarding the claims that the CIA had him murdered, it would be incorrect journalism for me to say "the false claims that the CIA was involved in the assassination."

The correct thing would be to say "the unproven claims" or the "alleged claims"

Even something completely outlandish, if I were to interview a person who said they were visited by aliens and were anally probed.

It would still be incorrect for me to write: "SlowFlowPro falsely claims he was anally probed by aliens."

The correct thing to write would be: ".... claims he was allegedly anally probed by aliens." You could even add "there is no evidence to support this claim"

But it is not a journalists job to declare where things are true or false in a NEWS story. In an editorial, sure that's fine.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:26 am to
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But it is not a journalists job to declare where things are true or false in a NEWS story. In an editorial, sure that's fine.

Virtually all "news" is editorial content, at this point.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:27 am to
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Virtually all "news" is editorial content, at this point.

I'm not shocked that you rely on literal lying to make a point, however, even assuming you're true, which is better: editorializing of manufacturing falsehoods?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:27 am to
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I've connected dots that SouthEasternKaiju is the leader of a Satanic cult that has done unspeakable things to plasma beings (that humans often confuse with angels and grey aliens) in order to cause the reincarnation of our savior, Aleister Crowley.

You can never prove this to be false. So what do we do?


If I were a journalist writing a story about you, I would say that you believe it, that it is unproven and/or alleged. But I would never write that it is false.

These are simple journalistic standards that were in force just a decade or so ago that have been abandoned.

This is not a political stance.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:30 am to
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which is better: editorializing of manufacturing falsehoods?


A journalist should do neither. They are both bad.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:30 am to
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They use the "it was reported" to indicate some validity or authority, when really the "reports" were unfounded CT nonsense.


This was the main strategy for Crossfire Hurricane as well.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:31 am to
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These are simple journalistic standards that were in force just a decade or so ago that have been abandoned.

This is not true, though.

Yes, there is more editorializing as the internet democratized information and the market revealed how easily people turn into segregated NPCs who want to be told what to think to conform to their preconceived worldview. I'm not arguing that trend doesn't exist.

But insane conspiracy theories have always been labeled as disproven or false, as long as I've followed them (and I was reading books on Bigfoot and UFOs at 5, with a dad who was obsessed with a select handful of conspiracies my whole life). Just as cult leaders have always been reported as "falsely claiming" certain tenets of their cult ideology.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:31 am to
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Virtually all "news" is editorial content, at this point
It has been that way since the founding. There has never been consistently objective journalism.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:33 am to
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We'd be here all day if we reposted the CPP weirdness.


Or listed the sordid cast of degenerates, weirdos, perverts and apparent satanists in the Clinton camp.

The usual assembly of MSM “fact-checkers” declared that it is “fake” news that Hillary or Podesta were involved in Abramovic’s bizarre rituals:



Of course, these “fact checkers” predictably turned a blind to the documented evidence that sexual perverts and debased groomers orbited the Podesta/Clinton gravitational sphere — and they don’t even try to hide it!

Here is a featured piece on the French men’s fashion magazine “Dust” which openly celebrates Abramovic’s sexualizing pre-pubescent boys:



https://www.designscene.net/2013/05/marina-abramovic-dust.html
This post was edited on 1/10/25 at 8:34 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:33 am to
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This was the main strategy for Crossfire Hurricane as well.

And idiot DEMs believed it.

As I noted to a similar comment, though, they did get to wash through some authority during that process, though.

But Crossfire Hurricane is a good example. All of the allegations have not been 100% disproven, there, also. However, I have no problem with a media outlet saying the claims there were false.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28173 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:33 am to
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But insane conspiracy theories have always been labeled as disproven or false, as long as I've followed them


Like Trump being a Russian agent?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77717 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:37 am to
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Tom Hanks in Guantanamo, the military capture of Dominion servers in Europe, Trump running the whole show "in exile", his return to the White House in August of 2021 and the Storm.

Considering the Q Thread was archived before any of those things happened, that would be an interesting read, indeed.

By the by, did y'all catch Tom Hanks slipping in the "I never had COVID" gem during the SNL 5 Timers Club cold open, right before Christmas?

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:37 am to
First search, first reply...a Hill article calling the claims false

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The report by former special counsel Robert Mueller showed that no American collaborated with the Russian government in the election. Therefore, Steele’s claims were not, in fact, reliable. But, does that mean someone lied to the FISA Court, or were they just mistaken? As Americans, we have the right to expect our national security agencies take their vast powers seriously. We also expect that FBI agents and attorneys presenting FISA warrants to spy on Americans (targeting Americans requires yet another, higher level of proof of criminality related to foreign spying) have rigorous procedures in place to guard against frivolous or false claims that are used for nefarious — or partisan political — purposes.

Any experienced agent or prosecutor reviewing the Steele dossier can see the glaring warning signs that should have gotten the information discarded. The FBI must have been well aware that Steele, who laughably claimed he had evidence of an “extensive conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin” had not even been to Russia in 20 years, making most of his Russia-based information secondhand hearsay at best. Coupled with the obvious partisan bias revealed in those who directed the counter-intelligence operation, it is hard to conclude these representations were innocently or ignorantly made.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:37 am to
I'm referring to straight news articles, not books or documentaries, etc.

If I am interviewing a person who claims to have seen Bigfoot, it would be improper for me to write "After interviewing SlowFlowPro, a man who falsely claims he saw Bigfoot."

If I were an editor, that would be grounds for termination.

The correct thing would be: "After interviewing SlowFlowPro, a man who claims he saw Bigfoot."

The "falsely" is superfluous. It adds an editorial element that is not needed.
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