re: Perhaps it was karma for Japan to receive the A-bombs considering their cruelty in WW2

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Are we sure this is not "fake news", I mean who are the sources of this stories? Not defending them, just playing devil's advocate.

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We granted immunity to the leaders of unit 731. It's well documented, as are the test they performed on living humans.

I read the story of some US Marines on patrol at the beginning of the Pacific Campaign, could have been Wake Island or Guadalcanal.

The found one of their fellow Marines dead, he had been decapitated with his head sitting on his stomach and his testicles stuffed in his mouth.

They knew from that moment on how brutal the Japs were going to be.

I had a great Uncle who was killed at Okinawa.
He was with the 29th Regiment of the 6th Marine Division.
He was killed at the infamous Sugar Loaf Hill located in southern Okinawa.
The US Army and USMC took heavy losses just for a hill that was about 50 ft high and about 300 yards long.
The Battle for Sugar Loaf entailed several fights between the Americans and the Japs.

The battle of Okinawa was the bloodiest and costliest battle of the entire war. The US had over 82,000 causalities with over 24,000 KIA.

It was very evident after that(and Iwo Jima) that the invasion of Japan was going to be a very long brutal and bloody campaign.

Most likely, if we invaded Japan, they would have fought to the last man, woman and child.

The old timers I knew absolutely hated and despised the Japanese.

They knew the stories of their brothers, fathers, uncles, sons who were brutally slaughtered by the Japs.

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love the American Heroes Channel

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My TV stays on ahc pretty much 24/7 I agree that they focus way too much on the western front. Pretty much any Pacific stuff is limited to naval and air combat footage, very little boots on ground stuff.

Honestly I'd love for them to air more wwi footage and programs. I could spend days watching wwi footage and looking through pictures.

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And for the downvoters, I just saw a picture of Japanese soldiers tossing Chinese babies around on bayonets. Just one example.

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The Japanese also forced Korean women into sexual slavery, making them in some cases service 40 men a day.

My dad was a WWII Navy vet, he was involved in the recovery of POWs held by the Japanese when the war ended. He never said much about it, but our mom later told us as adults that he had nightmares about it for most of his life.

It's a really weird thing I see on this board . Japan is only really mentioned, or evaluated, in terms of their largest conflict with the US. Thus we get 40 or 50 Japan threads a year, all revolving around WW2. Yet WW2 ended 72 years ago, and japan is in every way one of our best and most important allies. We do apply the same logic, nor should we , to either Italy or Germany.

Every reasonably historically literate person in the world knows Japan's bloody WW2 history as well as the wise policy to bring them back into the fold. This has served them and us spectacularly well.

I was fortunate when I lived in Japan to befriend many former Japanese soldiers. Including a couple who were in slave labor camps in the Soviet Union for s decade after the war ended. I also was dear friends with a guy who lost his siblings when an errant US bomb hit their school near a submarine base. All of these people had moved on, with the very best of the human spirit in their hearts. And all pro- American.

There is nothing intrinsic to 21st Century Japanese culture that is bloodthirsty and war-loving. Imperial Japan was a shitstorm confluence of so many different historical factors colliding at exactly the wrong time for Asia and the world. And Koreans, Chinese, our grandfathers and everyone else paid the price. And that all ended 72 years ago and Japan is now a loyal ally, there are Americans teaching at virtually every HS in Japan, we have phenomenal cultural exchange, they are enthusiastic consumers of our culture, we have tremendous trade, etc. That is the proper way to judge Japan. The sins of the father are not transferable, our cultures are highly compatible and we have mutual respect.

The war in the Pacific always received second billing, imho because we had no real cultural affinity to any place that it was fought. But we always knew about the European countries from whence we came.

I think those of us who know such historical things know that the Japanese soldier was second to none in either brutally or sadism. There is nothing that anybody on this thread wrote that even begins to approach the horror of it. Fortunately, it's over, their defeat was total, and they switched gears on a dime at our direction. Anybody who thinks the Japanese do not understand their undeserved good fortune, or feel gratitude towards the US , doesn't really understand the Japanese. Their prosperity is thanks to our magnanimity, they embraced the friendly little brother role, and the world is better off because of it.

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Anybody who thinks the Japanese do not understand their undeserved good fortune, or feel gratitude towards the US , doesn't really understand the Japanese. Their prosperity is thanks to our magnanimity, they embraced the friendly little brother role, and the world is better off because of it.

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Maybe so, but they still vehemently deny any and all allegations of wrong doing. Rape of nanking? Western propaganda. Death camps, death marches, Unit 731, using babies as bayonet practice targets.. All of it is denied by the Japanese at large.

You reap what you sow, and the Japs reaped hellfire.

We should have dropped 10 bombs.

Pretty sure he's referring to the creepypasta story. They kept several guys awake for 15 days using some gas I believe. By the end of it the last guy was "not human" and bashed his head into the wall or some shite. It's a proven fake.. But it's a well put together story.