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re: People Basically Approving of the Murder of the United Healthcare CEO
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:25 am to SouthEasternKaiju
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:25 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Anyone celebrating this murder is a garbage human being.
Okay, President Biden.
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:25 am to Guntoter1
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Buy another insurance provider or murder the CEO.
You choose murder instead of the free market. You are the definition of communism
If you think those other carriers are going to treat you significantly better, I have some beanstalk beans I would like to sell you.
The insurance game is rigged against their customers
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:25 am to Taxing Authority
I'm no goddamn commie, so drop that bullshite.
But I'm not gonna look at someone working hard to take care of his family and said "that's greedy"
Now, the government goons and the uber-corporations and the MIC?
That's greedy.
But I'm not gonna look at someone working hard to take care of his family and said "that's greedy"
Now, the government goons and the uber-corporations and the MIC?
That's greedy.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:25 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:Greed is not mere desire. We can have healthy desires for material wealth and for good reasons.
This is a very circular statement. I know about the camel and the needle and all of that, but I would like to think that God does not hold it against someone for enjoying the spoils while also providing for others.
The more you have the more you have to give. But first you must procure
Greed is excessive by definition and focused on personal gain and benefit. Trying to earn money to give to others is not greed, so perhaps we're just disagreeing on the meaning of the word.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:27 am to Flats
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Not at all, but don't you think that would require some pretty serious introspection and thought? Something beyond 'frick the elite' or 'frick insurance CEOs'?
That was my point about the politics.
The more and more big business and big gov't become indistinguishable, the more a CEO of a company that uses/hides behind government may become a target of a political assassination traditionally reserved for politicians. I don't know much about this guy or his company, but the Pfizer CEO being gunned down would be a political assassination, in my view.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:28 am to FooManChoo
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Greed is excessive by definition and focused on personal gain and benefit. Trying to earn money to give to others is not greed, so perhaps we're just disagreeing on the meaning of the word.
No I think we just view it differently. It is still greedy even if for good intent, because you are deciding where it will be deployed. Thinking you know better than if someone else had accumulated it where it could be best used.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:29 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
This thread has revealed how truly shitty some people are.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:30 am to 19
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What you're seeing is reactance to an overabundance of virtue signaling.
It has nothing to do with society. Individuals, especially here, are just fricking over it.
You sure? There are an awful lot of posts that use the class/wealth angle to justify the killing. That's the left, or at least it used to be.
I get gallows humor, I get making flip remarks. I personally read the story and moved on, not because I'm a shitty human but because it just doesn't impact me. That's not the same as justifying this because the guy made too much money and was greedy.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:30 am to TDTOM
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This thread has revealed how truly shitty some people are.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:30 am to Lsupimp
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We see a similar dehumanization with the Trump assassination attempt. His humanity was entirely denied by some, and he was grotesquely and perversely made responsible for his own near-death. It's a weakening of the American mind, a kind of casual moral collapse of "good" people, the denial of their humanity. Whatever it is, this mind virus of the aggrieved that denies the humanity of others is growing. People strongly prefer narratives that conform to their internal dialogues than grapple with the moral implications of their beliefs. And it's spreading.
It might approach something resembling fine line, but there is still a clear distinction between the two situations IMO. Our country was literally founded on such distinctions and dancing around similar fine lines.
If Trump had been assassinated it would have been one of the darkest days in American history. The same is not true of yesterday. Not even close.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 11:31 am
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:31 am to 19
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DGAF about this elitist a-hole buying the farm is NOT cheering it on or lack of humanity.
What made him an elitist a-hole?
Since you apparently knew the guy.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:31 am to The Baker
Yep, that place is an ANTIFA cesspool
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:32 am to SirWinston
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Credit card CEO maybe.
Honestly, we all know at least 90% will be in finance, healthcare, and law.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:34 am to Flats
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You sure? There are an awful lot of posts that use the class/wealth angle to justify the killing.
Typical populism.
Next they'll want govt to limit ceo pay or take over healthcare.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:35 am to RogerTheShrubber
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What made him an elitist a-hole?
For me, it's because of the way they acted during COVID and the vaccine mandates. They literally created an apartheid system and wanted to grow it and use it for greater control in the future. A pushback like this is understandable.
For this shooter (or whoever hired him) it was likely denied coverage that another company may have honoured which cost someone a life or a life savings. We simply don't have enough info (perhaps we never will).
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 11:39 am
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:39 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:Again, I think it's a disagreement about the word "greed". From all accounts that I can find, greed is understood to be an excessive, selfish desire for material gain.
No I think we just view it differently. It is still greedy even if for good intent, because you are deciding where it will be deployed. Thinking you know better than if someone else had accumulated it where it could be best used.
If you think your economic policies are better because they can produce more wealth and have that wealth go to those who most need it, then that doesn't sound like greed to me.
If you want to hoard wealth like Smaug the dragon, then that's typically what greed is referring to. Wanting to give to others is not greed.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:39 am to SirWinston
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President Biden.
WTF are you even saying? I didn’t quote anyone else.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Are you one of those MAGA baws trying to save America, by chance?
Your TDS always takes over...
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:43 am to SirWinston
Agreed.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Typical populism.
Populism is like chemotherapy imo. We need it right now. It was needed during the French and American revolutions. It was needed during and after the industrial revolution.
I am a Populist today but I hope I won't always be a Populist. I wouldn't have been a Populist in 1984, for example.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 11:52 am
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