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re: Pentagon formally releases 3 Navy videos showing "unidentified aerial phenomena"

Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:14 pm to
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:14 pm to
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We've routinely observed phenomenon that "defies physics".

The fact that black holes evaporate violates the Law of Conservation of Energy.



This is false, nothing can “defy physics”. We’ve merely discovered physical realities we didn’t understand at the time.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:16 pm to
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But logic, science, and intellectual honesty say that craft shouldn’t exist


No it doesnt. Logic science and intellectual honesty would say we dont understand what we are seeing, not that it shouldn’t exist.
I dont know =/= thats impossible!@#!@
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:16 pm to
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either from our gov or another but are secret advanced aircraft


Who spends the most after us? Hard to believe if they aren't ours they are another gov
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37763 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:16 pm to
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Well thats odd. Because apparently it does lmao. Here we are.


Yep. Here we are. Defying the natural order of the universe. We are the lone spot in the entire infinite plane of existence to harbor life.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109794 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:16 pm to
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quote:


We've routinely observed phenomenon that "defies physics".

The fact that black holes evaporate violates the Law of Conservation of Energy.


This is false, nothing can “defy physics”. We’ve merely discovered physical realities we didn’t understand at the time.





Seems like a semantic argument.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:20 pm to
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Seems like a semantic argument.


Not at all

Defying physics would be, literally, a miracle. That’s what miracles are.

Alternatively, not understanding physical realities we are observing was the norm for nearly all of recorded human history.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:21 pm to
I have looked at it from most angles(manmade vs other) here:

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/ny-times-pentagons-ufo-program---aerospace-esoteric-quantum-mechanics-future/74223344/

Most major articles over the last 3 years are in there

This post was edited on 4/27/20 at 9:23 pm
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:22 pm to
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We've routinely observed phenomenon that "defies physics".

The fact that black holes evaporate violates the Law of Conservation of Energy.


This is false, nothing can “defy physics”. We’ve merely discovered physical realities we didn’t understand at the time.




Seems like a semantic argument


Nah they used to think the earth was the center of the universe. Your semantics would seem to imply that the earth not being the center of the universe is defiance of physics. Just because you dont understand natural law, doesnt mean things you dont understand defy natural law.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37763 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:23 pm to
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Defying physics would be, literally, a miracle. That’s what miracles are.


Go back 500 years ago. Fly around in a jet.

You just performed a miracle to the people that saw you. (The flying not the hypothetical time travel )
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22861 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:24 pm to
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Yep. Here we are. Defying the natural order of the universe. We are the lone spot in the entire infinite plane of existence to harbor life.

I don't believe that. To think we are the only IL, no there are others that may be 10s, or 100s or even billions of light years from here. Hell even a light year is a long way out there.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109794 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:24 pm to
Human perspective and understanding is basically everything, though, until it’s not.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26353 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:24 pm to
Not aliens. Just the now *space force" testing unmanned aircraft on unarmed navy pilots.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:26 pm to
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Go back 500 years ago. Fly around in a jet.

You just performed a miracle to the people that saw you. (The flying not the hypothetical time travel )



From their perspective it would be a miracle. That doesnt make it a miracle. It’s physics, they just didnt understand it. When you’re 2 and your parent plays peek-a-boo, the parent isnt miraculously popping in and out of existence, the child just doesnt understand object permanence.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:28 pm to
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Human perspective and understanding is basically everything, though, until it’s not.



This implies physics fundamentally changes based on understanding. Which is not the case. The apple was always affected by gravity falling from the tree before newton thought about it. If what you suggest were true, no gravity existed until the 1600s
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37763 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:29 pm to
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don't believe that.


I don’t either. Life is natural. To believe we are it is asinine.

Since life is natural, one can infer life exist elsewhere. If life exist elsewhere, why wouldn’t it be intelligent?

If we are, why not them?
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:32 pm to
Posted by Lago Gato
Member since Dec 2018
2037 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:33 pm to
My question is why a space force ? Why haven’t we been obliterated if ETs are visiting? If the technology is ours why hide it ?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37763 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:33 pm to
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From their perspective it would be a miracle.


Like zero g propulsion to us.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
8190 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:34 pm to
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What is that.. What’s in the bottom one? I don’t see anything but water


Look between the parallel lines at the middle. The Tic Tac target is locked inside. The little dot is the UAP hauling arse above the water.

The video with audio has one of the pilots response saying something like, "holy shite! You locked on to it." or something similar. They are amazed at the speed and maneuverability of the object during the video.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109794 posts
Posted on 4/27/20 at 9:36 pm to
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This implies physics fundamentally changes based on understanding.


No, not anymore than you might be implying that our understanding cannot ever be shaped by misperception of physical phenomena.
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