re: Pentagon formally releases 3 Navy videos showing "unidentified aerial phenomena"

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Physics =/= our understanding of physics is exactly my point. You cant defy physics. You can just misunderstand what you saw.

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You keep speaking as if physics was a concept bestowed upon us by the gods. The flaw on your reasoning is that you seem to be failing to recognize that the concept of physics itself and everything it entails, is simply an explanation, by a flawed species with limited understanding of the universe, about the observable and implied phenomena in the universe.

If you accept that our knowledge of nature and the universe is incomplete and that we are non-omniscient, flawed beings then you accept that all our explanations of that same universe that we exist in are also potentially flawed.

Scientific laws are laws because we have yet to see them be broken. That doesn't mean they can't be broken. And if and when we observe they are, we'll just modify our so-called law. Think about the evolutionary time scale of the universe that humans have existed in. It could just be that breaking of what we deem scientific laws is very rare but that doesn't mean that it's impossible. We just haven't observed it.... yet.

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I kind of buy the great filter theory

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I do too. Id buy into things like "other dimensions" etc before I bought into lifeforms from other planets visiting.

You have to consider both the vastness of space coupled with the even more vastness of time. For alien visitors to find us and visit it would seem to be the same odds as two people standing at opposite ends of a gymnasium blindfolded and throwing marbles in random directions and them colliding in air.

If you dont believe in creation the odds are even worse. The development of life on this planet defied all of how we see matter usually act...tending towards disruption and disorganization. For that to happen on one of the very small number of planets(relatively of course) out there that could support life in the same time period as we are is crazy unlikely.

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Believing UFOs are alien spacecraft is inherently illogical. I’ve never understood how so few ever bother to carry that line of thinking to it’s logical conclusion.

It’s completely absurd to even consider

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The vast majority of the 5% that are truly unidentified are most likely ours, especially the triangles.

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I kind of buy the great filter theory

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And with a cursory examination of Humanities' current ability to rightly asses and successfully address potential and fatal flaws in our collective psyche, given our exponentially increasing technological power...you'd be good to bet the farm on said Theory.

But then, nothing like a major (perceived) threat to unite the folk. "Never let a good crisis go to waste". Just saying.

Who's to say we haven't already passed the great filter?

It took 1.5 billion years for eukaryotic evolution from prokaryotes. Seems pretty significant.

Also, odds are there will be one in our future. It's just a matter of time whether some galactic event threatens life on this planet (if we don't kill ourselves). It's a race against time to develop technology good enough to colonize elsewhere to avoid extinction.

If these are man made then man is flying all over the solar system and possibly beyond and hardly a soul knows.

And if these are man made the unbelievable tech has been kept secret as well as the most high tech manufacturing facilities in the known world.

Logic tells me this is highly unlikely reading the last 10k of human history.

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Or breakaway civilization

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This seems to be the theory most gaining traction IMO.

I love this stuff and I find it VERY exciting that we could be on the verge of "evolving" into a level 2 species. I put evolving in quotes, because I've read through the responses so far and find it interesting most are in the Darwin camp, which itself was very controversial not that long ago, (in our understanding of linear time).

Interesting, to say the least.

Off the East Coast, from Fla through Virginia... that's getting pretty damn close to the Bermuda Triangle.

This timeline we're living in is frickin' amazing