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re: Patel says arrests are coming soon.

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:49 pm to
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That is because your hypothetical has zero relevance in this discussion.


Discussing lawful orders has no relevance to a discussion about following only lawful orders?
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:49 pm to
He often gets the most out his two hours, though.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:50 pm to
This post is still somehow available
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:53 pm to
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He often gets the most out his two hours, though.


Must be an eye of the beholder thing.
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:56 pm to
NC_Tigah intellectually mogging SFP

Some things never change
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:59 pm to
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NC_Tigah intellectually mogging SFP


By not answering the relevant questions and attempting to create digressions around irrelevant discussion points?

I'm not shocked you're confused, though.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:01 pm to
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Discussing lawful orders has no relevance to a discussion about following only lawful orders?
Discussing lawful orders has no relevance when all orders issued were lawful orders. I will say again, Mark Kelly does not want this brought to a court martial panel, specifically for that reason.
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:01 pm to
clock is ticking so baw is creating posting efficiencies by distilling TDS and antisemitism - quite a cocktail.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:02 pm to
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to create digressions around irrelevant discussion points?
The fact that no unlawful, illegal orders were issued is now an "irrelevant discussion point"?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:03 pm to
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Discussing lawful orders has no relevance when all orders issued were lawful orders. I

Sure it does.

Think about what you just said

Posted by texag7
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:03 pm to
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clock is ticking so baw


Mueller has got him this time!



You buffoon of a man
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476281 posts
Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:04 pm to
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The fact that no unlawful, illegal orders were issued is now an "irrelevant discussion point"?


Yes.

It has no relevance to the general comments made. You're trying to manufacture a point to create a partisan take when none of that applies to the comments directly.

As I said earlier

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my focus is on the words, not the partisan interpretation.


Your focus is NOT on the words.
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:04 pm to
yes, that is... [language failing]
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:05 pm to
I mean I guess that guy went with the more libertarian angle on the racism
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:08 pm to
You guys are going to be very disappointed. Nobody’s going to jail…

If I’m wrong tell me who it will be…
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:29 pm to
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I’m not going to subsidize your laziness


this isn’t your first month here. It is standard for someone making a claim to provide link.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:39 pm to
You can help yourself.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:44 pm to
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Your focus is NOT on the words.
Oh my

No, SFP, we are each focused on the words in the law.

However, your focus is on words that describe something which never happened.

My focus is on words that describe something that did happen. That's the difference.

Both are elements of the law. One did not occur, the other did.

There were no unlawful orders issued.
On the other hand, there was an interference with the order and discipline of the military through the intimation that unlawful orders were being issued, and the pursuant cautionary that following such orders (even though they had not occurred) could lead to court martial.
This post was edited on 4/21/26 at 1:45 pm
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 1:56 pm to
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Think about what you just said
Instead, you should think about what I just said.

What was the purpose of the "public service announcement"?

You would, incredibly, posit the purpose was to inform military members of something they already knew. That clearly was not the purpose. You know that. I know that. Everyone who watched the PSA knows that.

The purpose was to instill insecurity in servicemen who were following legal orders. That purpose translates to a disruption of "order and discipline" in the military.

For a civilian, such a purpose might fall within first amendment rights. But for someone subject to the UMCJ, it is a different matter.

Decatur claims Kelly was/is not subject to the UMCJ. That is literally the only argument that could save Kelly if he got pulled back to active duty. It's crystal clear you don't understand that, or refuse to admit that you do.
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