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re: Patel says arrests are coming soon.

Posted on 4/21/26 at 11:41 am to
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 11:41 am to
They’re in his opinion, jackass.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 11:42 am to
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They’re in his opinion, jackass.


Link it. I bet they don’t say what you claim. Dishonest jackass.
This post was edited on 4/21/26 at 11:43 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 11:42 am to
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*a lawful military order

Fixed it for you.
Perhaps you did not understand what you were responding to. The issue is interference with order and discipline. Order and discipline is critical to successful military operation. In an environment where life and death depends on order and discipline in following orders, questioning the latter is generally unworkable. Not following a direct order will be subject to court-martial.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 11:44 am to
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Link it. I bet they don’t say what you claim.


You’re a perfectly capable jackass. You can look it up yourself.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 11:55 am to
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You can try to spin them in a partisan way and fall into his trap
Your focus is on the lawful order part, rather than the innuendo that unlawful orders are being issued, AND that a 19y/o grunt with a HS degree had better sort through the legal nuances of every order he receives, lest he find himself being prosecuted. That is NOT the law, but it IS the message forwarded by Senator arse-tronaut.

I'll tell you point blank, if Asstronaut finds himself in front of a court-martial panel, he will be in real trouble.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 11:58 am to
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You’re a perfectly capable jackass. You can look it up yourself.


Knew you couldn’t bring the receipts.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 11:59 am to
I’m not going to subsidize your laziness.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:00 pm to
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Citation requested.
Provided earlier.
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SCOTUS has never applied the speech restrictions for *active duty* military members to retired military members
Good. Recall the SOB. Subject the antiAmerican bastard to a court-martial, and then let SCOTUS rule on legality.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:00 pm to
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Perhaps you did not understand what you were responding to.

I did. That's why I had to correct it for you
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:00 pm to
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Your focus is on the lawful order part, rather than the innuendo


Yes, my focus is on the words, not the partisan interpretation.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:14 pm to
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Yes, my focus is on the words, not the partisan interpretation.
No.
Your focus is on a single tree in a forest.

Again, this is what Asstronaut breeched:
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The purposes of military law are to promote justice, to deter misconduct, to facilitate appropriate accountability, to assist in maintaining good order and discipline in the armed forces, to promote efficiency and effectiveness in the military establishment, and thereby to strengthen the national security of the United States.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:15 pm to
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The purposes of military law are to promote justice, to deter misconduct, to facilitate appropriate accountability, to assist in maintaining good order and discipline in the armed forces, to promote efficiency and effectiveness in the military establishment, and thereby to strengthen the national security of the United States.


Is an officer permitted to use an unlawful order to ensure good order and discipline?

I have gifs from A Few Good Men ready to fire up
Posted by AGGIES
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:19 pm to
You can’t handle the truth!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:38 pm to
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Is an officer permitted to use an unlawful order to ensure good order and discipline?
No unlawful orders were issued. THAT IS THE POINT!

Since you brought up "A Few Good Men," address what was expected of those soldiers in general commission of their duties, and in following orders in the reality, on the ground, that Galloway used to address the question posed by Weinberg "Why do you love them so much?"
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:39 pm to
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That's why I had to correct it for you
Uh oh. You normally don't double down on a mistake in our exchanges.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:43 pm to
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No unlawful orders were issued.


You didn't answer the question

Is an officer permitted to use an unlawful order to ensure good order and discipline?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:45 pm to
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Austrianpaynter137

At 4¢/post, someone is not getting their moneys worth
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:46 pm to
This guy does 1-3 alters a week and last about 2 hours on average.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/26 at 12:46 pm to
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You didn't answer the question
That is because your hypothetical has zero relevance in this discussion. There were no illegal orders issued.
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