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Posted on 3/28/18 at 2:48 pm to TheXman
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He didn't shoot up the school because of bullying
True. He acted out in response to the bullying, so much so that the police were called 39 times in response to his cries for help. After the local authorities failed time and time again to respond to any of his warning signs, he snapped and shot up a school.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 2:48 pm to lsuguy84
Now you just don't make any sense.
My whole point in this thread is that not one single issue is the cause of Cruz's actions.
Kids are ruthless. Have been forever. Bullying is a part of childhood. Most kids are able to cope with it. The one's that do not, have other issues. Those issues are the more important issues to focus on.
My whole point in this thread is that not one single issue is the cause of Cruz's actions.
Kids are ruthless. Have been forever. Bullying is a part of childhood. Most kids are able to cope with it. The one's that do not, have other issues. Those issues are the more important issues to focus on.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 2:50 pm to SUB
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You people are still discussing fake news and making broad assumptions at what happened in this kids childhood.
I’m speaking from experience. The anger you experience from bullying is not the anger you experience when some a-hole cuts you off in traffic or when someone steals something of yours. You can’t and don’t maintain that anger. The anger I’m talking about is much more rooted and harder to deal with. There is a social component that makes it much more intense and longer lasting... also, anyone who says ostracizing someone is not the same as bullying is clueless. Isolating a person causes just as much damage emotionally as getting your arse kicked every day by a bully, because what you are telling that person is they are not worthy of being a part of the social structure. Remember, these are the formative years where you really develop these social skills. You ostracize a kid at this age, you not only create a lot of internal anger but they also have very few ways of dealing with it because the social skills don’t develop. They don’t know how to reach out for help because they’ve internalized everything, and are very untrusting of others.
Say whatever you want, but I’ve been there, and I’ve dealt with these issues.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 2:51 pm to nematocyte
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My god, most of you are angry, venomous people. You can disagree with somebody without calling them "fricking hookers" and "skinhead carpet munching whores."
Welcome to PoliTalk you unhinged moonbat loon.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 2:53 pm to 10MTNTiger
I can't see that little angry mug without thinking of those Khmer and Chinese kids denouncing their parents and neighbors as they were led to their death. A world away but the same appetite to destroy for the cause. It's a psychological pathology and the tell is on her face.


Posted on 3/28/18 at 2:54 pm to Salmon
Yeah I may have misunderstood your comments then. This I can definitely agree with. Apologies, bud 
Posted on 3/28/18 at 2:55 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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I’m speaking from experience. The anger you experience from bullying is not the anger you experience when some a-hole cuts you off in traffic or when someone steals something of yours. You can’t and don’t maintain that anger. The anger I’m talking about is much more rooted and harder to deal with. There is a social component that makes it much more intense and longer lasting... also, anyone who says ostracizing someone is not the same as bullying is clueless. Isolating a person causes just as much damage emotionally as getting your arse kicked every day by a bully, because what you are telling that person is they are not worthy of being a part of the social structure. Remember, these are the formative years where you really develop these social skills. You ostracize a kid at this age, you not only create a lot of internal anger but they also have very few ways of dealing with it because the social skills don’t develop. They don’t know how to reach out for help because they’ve internalized everything, and are very untrusting of others.
Say whatever you want, but I’ve been there, and I’ve dealt with these issues.
And the march for our lives kids not doing one damn thing odr saying one damn thing to encourage others not to bully kids proves their real motives.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 2:58 pm to 10MTNTiger
So this kid ostracized the shooter until he cracks and kills 17 of his classmates, then screeches at a rally condemning guns all the while admitting she teased the gunman until he went berserk and shot up her school. Got it. I'm dizzy, but I got it.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 2:59 pm to 10MTNTiger
I saw that the day it aired right after the shooting. What she said was broadcast all over the news. It was the first time we ever heard her talk. She said that very thing.
Not sure this will hurt her unless her fame was from stuff after the first time she spoke publicly. It was known that they ostracized him and that she defended it.
Not sure this will hurt her unless her fame was from stuff after the first time she spoke publicly. It was known that they ostracized him and that she defended it.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:01 pm to 10MTNTiger
She screamed, "you din'unt know this kid!"
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:02 pm to PsychTiger
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Welcome to PoliTalk you unhinged moonbat loon.
Welcome to PoliTalk, please leave all critical and logical thinking at the door! And ethics, etiquette, evidence.. ah, frick it, just go away.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:02 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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They bullied this guy for years, to the point he finally snapped and killed people and they aren’t in anyway responsible for his mental state of mind? Gtfo with that shite. Everyone has limits and if you push a person far enough, they will eventually snap and respond back, often violently.
This is exactly the excuse the MSM used justify Hassan shooting up Fort Hood.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:03 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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while admitting she teased the gunman
Ostracized is not "teasing." We don't know why her and her class chose to exclude / isolate him. Maybe he was just an a-hole kid and they didn't want anything to do with him. Maybe he was weird? We don't know. Stop making assumptions based on nothing.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:04 pm to AlaTiger
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It was known that they ostracized him and that she defended it.
They will always defend it. Pick on him because you think he is weird and then justify it to yourself and others when he starts acting out. It’s a vicious cycle. Whether they ever admit it publicly or not, those kids know in their hearts how they treated him and they will carry around that guilt for the rest of their lives.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:08 pm to nematocyte
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Welcome to PoliTalk, please leave all critical and logical thinking at the door! And ethics, etiquette, evidence.. ah, frick it, just go away.
Now you're getting it.

Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:09 pm to 10MTNTiger
Ostracism is not bullying and conflating the two is some snowflake shite
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:10 pm to Salmon
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not sure who is blaming the NRA here
Seriously?
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:10 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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the rage the right has shown towards a bunch of kids who just survived a school shooting is bizarre and disturbing.
The left using them as body armor for their causes is also disturbing.
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