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re: Parkland Student Emma Gonzalez Admits To Bullying Shooter
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:10 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:10 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Seriously?
Yes? Have you seen it here? In this thread? Or predominately on this board?
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Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:11 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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Pick on him because you think he is weird and then justify it to yourself and others when he starts acting out.
FFS.
We don't know that they actively "picked on him." You people live in fantasy land and are as bad as the people that think that the Alton Sterling shooting was murder and not justified. You ignore facts and insert assumptions to fit whatever narrative you want to believe.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:12 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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Whether they ever admit it publicly or not, those kids know in their hearts how they treated him and they will carry around that guilt for the rest of their lives
You have made some really solid posts on this, thanks for your insight.
The other thing that I don't think many realize is that the shooter is still alive and the state is going for the death penalty at his trial. His defense attorneys are going to necessarily rip these same kids apart showing how they bullied him and caused him to crack. They could very well put Gonzalez on the stand to make her explain to a jury how she ostracized him, who else ostracized him, and myriad other related details.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:13 pm to SUB
quote:You can get people to believe a video contains almost anything by priming their brains with a fake title.
You ignore facts and insert assumptions to fit whatever narrative you want to believe.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:14 pm to 10MTNTiger
This Cruz kid’s parent situation was very bad. No father figure. Apparently a pushover foster mom that gave him enough money to purchase as arsenal of guns. Then the mother passes away and who knows what the kids living situation was afterwards. The adults in this kid’s life(police included) let down society
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:14 pm to 10MTNTiger
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They could very well put Gonzalez on the stand to make her explain to a jury how she ostracized him, who else ostracized him, and myriad other related details.
and she will more than likely state how he was angry, aggressive, and threatening to other kids
I'm willing to bet he was a bit of a bully himself
This can turn into a "chicken and egg" type debate on who started the bullying, but the facts are that we will probably never know that answer
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:16 pm to SUB
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Ostracized is not "teasing." We don't know why her and her class chose to exclude / isolate him. Maybe he was just an a-hole kid and they didn't want anything to do with him. Maybe he was weird? We don't know. Stop making assumptions based on nothing.
I'm new here but that appears to make up a not-at-all insignificant percentage of the content.
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:16 pm to Salmon
A rich vein of irony to be tapped in the newfound reactionary principle that if your children don't actively hang out with the creepy kid who tortures animals, it's their fault when he shoots them.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:17 pm to 10MTNTiger
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They could very well put Gonzalez on the stand to make her explain to a jury how she ostracized him, who else ostracized him, and myriad other related details.
Yeah, and until then stop making assumptions and spreading conspiracy theories Alex Jones.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:21 pm to Iosh
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Ostracism is not bullying and conflating the two is some snowflake shite
They are not the same, but they have some very similar effects on kids. Maybe I am misunderstanding your point, though.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:22 pm to 10MTNTiger
I know they've enjoyed bullying the hell out of me, about my gun ownership. So I can only imagine what they did to the shooter
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:26 pm to Salmon
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and she will more than likely state how he was angry, aggressive, and threatening to other kids I'm willing to bet he was a bit of a bully himself This can turn into a "chicken and egg" type debate on who started the bullying, but the facts are that we will probably never know that answer
100% agree - he is more than a bully he is a murderer, we certainly know that now.
But from a strictly legal perspective Gonzalez's comments provide a ready-made mitigation defense for the shooter.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:27 pm to 10MTNTiger
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But from a strictly legal perspective Gonzalez's comments provide a ready-made mitigation defense for the shooter.
Not her actual comments.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:44 pm to bamarep
probably are
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:52 pm to Ag Zwin
quote:Bullying is active, and therefore a rule not to bully confers only a passive obligation on kids, telling them things they can't do (shove a kid into a locker, call him shitty names, etc.)
They are not the same, but they have some very similar effects on kids. Maybe I am misunderstanding your point, though.
Ostracism is passive. A rule not to ostracize therefore confers an active obligation on kids that they have to befriend everyone, since simply failing to invite a kid to your lunch table or house party or D&D game is ostracism. This is both untenable and undesirable, and isn't how social interaction works in the real world.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 3:54 pm to Iosh
Gotta love the white knights defending in here
Posted on 3/28/18 at 4:02 pm to 10MTNTiger
This whole thing is getting ridiculous. A couple of weeks ago they told Marco Rubio that "it's hard to look at you and not see you pulling the trigger on our friends." Come on.
The left is perfectly content to let the emotions of these kids be the calling card for gun control. Kids who were eating tide pods 3 weeks ago are now experts on gun legislation.
Keep coming after the NRA though. They kill zero people a year while Planned Parenthood kills over 300,000 a year. They kill twice as many kids an hour as the Parkland Shooter did with his gun. Facts are fun
The left is perfectly content to let the emotions of these kids be the calling card for gun control. Kids who were eating tide pods 3 weeks ago are now experts on gun legislation.
Keep coming after the NRA though. They kill zero people a year while Planned Parenthood kills over 300,000 a year. They kill twice as many kids an hour as the Parkland Shooter did with his gun. Facts are fun
Posted on 3/28/18 at 4:04 pm to 10MTNTiger
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"didn't know him like we did "
bloody hands, and a not so guilty conscious
Posted on 3/28/18 at 4:07 pm to Salmon
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kinda ironic in a thread chastising bullying, no
Shut the frick up, you're named after a smelly fish.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 4:09 pm to 10MTNTiger
• Some of these Parkland kids have personalities that are not attractive
• Not a huge leap to envision some of them bullying multiple kids
• I would venture to guess the death of his adoptive father (at a very young age for Cruz) played the greatest role in determining his ultimate path
• Not a huge leap to envision some of them bullying multiple kids
• I would venture to guess the death of his adoptive father (at a very young age for Cruz) played the greatest role in determining his ultimate path
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