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re: Our government tried to kill Trump, this was not a lapse

Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:29 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35826 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:29 pm to
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Why are you so butthurt that people are going to think what they want to think? What do you care?

Because nonsense is nonsense, and there is an election to win in November.

Having the base believing in moonbat nonsense is bad for the party, and bad for Donald Trump.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7052 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:29 pm to
All that talk of what Trump might do after the immunity decision was just projection of what they were going to do to Trump.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37785 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:30 pm to
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attributed to massive and total incompetence

From an organization that is world reknowned for being utterly meticulous and competent.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109762 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:30 pm to
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That is why the shooter is a pawn and not part of any government agency.


The shooter was an inevitability of what they have done. It doesn’t exactly make him a “pawn” but the reality is, it’s no less deliberate.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
55012 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:31 pm to
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massive and total incompetence.


This is acceptable to you?
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19678 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:31 pm to
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Really though? You think that "they" would go through the enormous lift of setting up something like this, and leaving a trail of rank incompetence in their wake?

It’s not that hard for me to believe that someone could decide to look the other way. It’s not hard to believe that people would leave gaps in Trump’s security hoping he would get shot. I am not claiming this went through some extensive planning. The incompetence is so bad I could believe they were ok with chaos and confusion going on in Trump’s security.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26949 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:31 pm to
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This wouldn't have been the B team either. Try L or M,


On a previous POTUS who's a current candidate at a campaign stop? Then where is B through M? Who are they securing?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35826 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:32 pm to
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From an organization that is world reknowned for being utterly meticulous and competent.

POTUS detail? Absolutely. But even they have routinely failed in keeping threats away from POTUS...regularly.

Outside of that, in the non-POTUS details, the USSS is not some omniscient entity. They are too over-stretched, under-resourced, and too undermanned to do what people who base their expectations on Tom Clancy novels expect them to do.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87689 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:33 pm to
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Because nonsense is nonsense, and there is an election to win in November.

Having the base believing in moonbat nonsense is bad for the party, and bad for Donald Trump.


We really need to take up a collection and get you laid. I’ve seldom seen anyone more in need of it.
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
17627 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:33 pm to
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Because nonsense is nonsense, and there is an election to win in November.
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No one is disputing that.

Most people are just doing simple math about this attempted assassination … too many things went wrong for the mainstream narrative to be believable.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29858 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:34 pm to
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There may be tiers of insane theories, but they are all still insane and peddled people whose only job is to procure clicks on the internet.

None of these theories pass the common sense test one bit.
99% of the time, I would've agreed with you.

But we're talking about one of the most well trained, well funded, professional police forces on planet earth.

It's at the very least, sketchy as hell
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35826 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:35 pm to
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Then where is B through M? Who are they securing?

Most of them, with POTUS/VPOTUS or off duty because they are waiting to go on duty for POTUS or VPOTUS.

I'd be surprised if Trump had more than a couple dozen USSS ground personnel in his detail Saturday, and not all of them would have been on shift. Advance work is done by the field offices for the most part.

Bill Clinton has two.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23003 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:36 pm to
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I'll stop beating my head against the wall. But there is a reason that no serious Republican is beating that drum.

And by "serious" I exclude anyone whose income is derived primarily from internet views.

I dunno about that


This guy is an elected congressman, AND happens to have practical knowledge and experience with stuff like this. And he's going on record that this was so blatantly bad, that he's leaning toward it being intentional at some level. He tries to say he doesn't want to think that's the case, but it seems too obvious for him to ignore.

That's a pretty damning commentary from him. He doesn't say it was Biden (note the CNN chick goes there, not him), but he smells a rat somewhere.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:36 pm to
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None of these theories pass the common sense test one bit.


Have you not been alive for the last 8 years!? They have gone after Trump every single way they can and it has all failed.

The fricking spigot is about to be shut off dumbass. The Ukraine money flow is about to run dry and “they” all know. This is not against just Democrats. There is another force behind the scenes that has been calling the shots for a long time.

Our fricking government has done before with JFK. He kept getting in the way of their money and they shot him. Or are you a poor gullible bastard that thinks Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

Do you think a 20 year old goober with zero training was able to pull off that shite alone?

Common sense!? Are you fricking serious man? Wake up! Look at what is going on.

Jill had an event in the area that got the “B” team, as if the fricking first lady even deserves that or should be out having her own events right now anyway. Her senile husband is fricking running for president, not her. How convenient to be in the same state at the same time forcing Trump to get the DEI squad.

How convenient for the only threat in the entire area to be left totally wide the frick open.

How convenient that the shooter was spotted 30 frickING MINUTES PRIOR TO SHOOTING TRUMP and was still able to get off 5 shots at 151 yards. How convenient!

Yup, all just simple incompetency, right?!

And these motherfrickers like Mayorkas will just sit there and lie like a god damn little weasel straight to everyone’s face because they know they can get away with everything due to the bought media. That little piece of shite motherfricker sat there and told lie after lie when he was getting grilled in congress about the wide open border policy that has caused so much destruction in this country and we’re just getting started.

Russiagate, all bullshite. All the lawfare recently that anyone with any COMMON SENSE could tell was a corrupt witch hunt with zero credibility.

Hunter Biden laptop. The covid lab leak. We can name so much shite that is a “conspiracy” that only took common frickin sense to debunk, and now you’re gonna sit here and say that a deep state assassination attempt on Trump with literally trillions of dollars at stake and massive amounts corruption exposure is not enough motive to take Trump out? Are you fricking kidding me?
This post was edited on 7/16/24 at 10:52 pm
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
8624 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:36 pm to
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This needs to stop.

Quit attributing to insane conspiracy theories what can be attributed to massive and total incompetence.


Assination attempt of a Presidental Candidate.. No conspiracy theory there buddy...
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35826 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:36 pm to
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too many things went wrong for the mainstream narrative to be believable.

I don't understand why it is hard to believe that these people are bad at their jobs.

We all believe that they are bad at their jobs every single day in all other aspects of government.

Why not this?
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
Member since Aug 2013
17432 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:37 pm to
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Quit attributing to insane conspiracy theories what can be attributed to massive and total incompetence.
CIA admitted to being involved in the JFK assassination decades after the fact. You are the guy saying that it was all a conspiracy back then, just like you are the guy saying it today.

It was a hit job by our Biden, Obama, Clinton and the rest of the criminal cabal
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:39 pm to
I'm still trying to link a government hit on Trump to a lanky 20 year old kid.
I can certainly agree that a fall guy could be recruited to carry out the most important part of the assassination plot, but to put all my eggs in the basket in this kid is hard to fathom.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5337 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:41 pm to
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Our government tried to kill Trump, this was not a lapse

You guys have lost your minds.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
20503 posts
Posted on 7/16/24 at 10:44 pm to
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Quit attributing to insane conspiracy theories what can be attributed to massive and total incompetence.


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