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re: OSHA new heat stress rules
Posted on 6/4/23 at 8:28 am to burger bearcat
Posted on 6/4/23 at 8:28 am to burger bearcat
People will have to breakout the psychometric chart to translate temperatures above 90 to determine if those temps are equivalent to 90 degree wet bulb (100% humidity) temps.
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Posted on 6/4/23 at 8:30 am to Prominentwon
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Is there literature somewhere on the interwebz that we can read instead of going by burger bearcat on TD?
Nope a man named burger bearcat is the premiere authority on the matter.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 8:47 am to burger bearcat
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their website specifically says thr new regulations are "because of climate change".
Even the worst doom-and-gloom climate weenies only predict a 4° change… in 70 years. I’d also like to know how working in 102° temperature today is different than working in 102° temp in 50 years.
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 8:50 am
Posted on 6/4/23 at 8:49 am to POTUS2024
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Worst administration in our history.
X 10 !!!!!!!!
Nothing but a bunch "box checked" appointments....and it shows daily.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 8:56 am to LSU316
Those are the same "guidelines" we were using in 2006, when I was monitoring our Security force in South Texas. The Wet bulb/Dry bulb data were used in conjunction with biometric data that monitored heart rate, respiration and core body temperature. We also used "recovery rate" as an administrative tool.
Bottom line? They could not do their job, especially while wearing black uniforms and ceramic body armor.
So.., we stopped monitoring it as closely.
Geaux figure.
Bottom line? They could not do their job, especially while wearing black uniforms and ceramic body armor.
So.., we stopped monitoring it as closely.
Geaux figure.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 8:56 am to oldskule
full compliance with this rule will fix it
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:03 am to Lsut81
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More need for big daddy govt to subsidize people that can’t work. So across all of the south, no outside work June to Sept?
Subsidize people who “can’t work”….because of new rules that big brother created.
Thomas Sowell talked about this. Create a crisis. Manufacture a solution to a problem that does not exist. The left is creative with their circular logic.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:37 am to burger bearcat
I am not necessarily supporting the OSHA rules / suggestions...
But to be clear, 90deg wet bulb is very very hot.
100 deg F with 66.6% humidity is 90deg wet bulb according to online calculator.
I think it is actually a little more complicated (also depends on sun angle and cloud cover and wind).
It is easy to measure. But I think 90 wet bulb is rare even in Baton Rouge.
But to be clear, 90deg wet bulb is very very hot.
100 deg F with 66.6% humidity is 90deg wet bulb according to online calculator.
I think it is actually a little more complicated (also depends on sun angle and cloud cover and wind).
It is easy to measure. But I think 90 wet bulb is rare even in Baton Rouge.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:40 am to burger bearcat
Hate to break it to you, but this has been coming for at least 6 years. I was the "safety guy" at a plant and the corporate mandate was to follow the proposed crap way back when. Thankfully, after 29 years, I can do something completely different in semi retirement
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:42 am to burger bearcat
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Our company safety guy just introduced the new heat stress regulations OSHA has recently implemented, their website specifically says thr new regulations are "because of climate change".
The chart they provide makes it basically impossible to work and be peoductive in construction or other manual labor in temperatures over 90 degrees.
Of course no company will be able to follow these regulations as they are written, which is the point. This puts every company in a situation where they are always out of compliance, and vulnerable to OSHA fines or lawsuits.
The whole concept of OSHA even existing, especially on a federal level, is completely out of bounds with the Constitution.
Welcome to Shell and P66's contractor policies.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:44 am to burger bearcat
How will they regulate this new rule with illegal laborers? Like the ones that hang outside Home Depot.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:47 am to upgrayedd
Meanwhile, our rugged "roofers" and similar work forces, carry on without any regard to these OSHA rules.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:59 am to burger bearcat
1. If you can’t govern competently, regulate.
2. The entire work ethic of America is now hopelessly Euro- soft.
3 There is a specific philosophy, promoted by specific people in a specific political party who designed this for a specific reason.
2. The entire work ethic of America is now hopelessly Euro- soft.
3 There is a specific philosophy, promoted by specific people in a specific political party who designed this for a specific reason.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 10:14 am to burger bearcat
Can you imagine how goooooooooooooooberment would treat us if we were an unarmed society?
Posted on 6/4/23 at 11:42 am to burger bearcat
I’m having a new home built, and there are several South/Central American crews working on hardscape, pool and landscape. It’s hot as blazes, and they’re working 11 hour days, no railings around dropoffs, and balancing on top of ladders. It’s awesome! These guys deserve every penny they are being paid - and more!
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:10 pm to burger bearcat
Wet Bulb? Not even the Army abides to the Wet Bulb. Except maybe black, but that's after several soldiers have fallen out.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:18 pm to Penrod
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These guys deserve every penny they are being paid - and more!
I had a similar experience when building my new shop/studio, a few years back. They were great and anytime I asked anything of them they would nod their head yes, (whether they understood, or not).
I always wondered how the NFL handles this work/rest regimen. They seem exempt from OSHA regs.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:23 pm to tketaco
The old-school pipeline trick was to deliberately let the access roads go to shite to where any unwanted visitors would have to call for someone to come and rescue them. At that point you're setting the itinerary.
Also, ice cold fruit>>Gatorade in the heat.
Also, ice cold fruit>>Gatorade in the heat.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 12:37 pm to shinerfan
Why not just shift the work to night when temperatures are 20 degrees lower. Sure its takes lights/generators but that is cheaper than osha daytime compliance
Posted on 6/4/23 at 1:20 pm to burger bearcat
I believe that chart was adapted (or stolen) from sports related applications. This is where it makes more sense to reduce work loads and intensity, but of course don’t expect anything osha does to make sense.
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