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re: OSHA new heat stress rules
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:57 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:57 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Rand was a welfare queen that died godless, alone, and poor. You’re better doing the exact opposite of what she says concerning anything.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 12:19 am to shinerfan
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Also, ice cold fruit>>Gatorade in the heat.
OMG yes. Ive got an undeveloped piece of land that Ive been working on in Alabama. I don't go work in the summer too much anymore but I swear that a couple of pears or oranges out of the cooler have saved my life at least twice. if you can't get out of the heat shade and cold fruit will keep you going.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 5:52 am to burger bearcat
Chart says 2015 at the top.
And the temps are wet bulb temps. Not dry bulb (thermometer)
But regardless, we have welders in full gear working in S Louisiana heat. We provide cases and cases of bottled water and cool down stations. And heat is a topic of every weekly safety meeting.
Limit alcohol the night before, limit caffeine(coffee and energy drinks) and drink two water bottle fire every Gatorade type drink. If u feel bad tell ur foreman/supervisor.
Just sitting at the LSU game yesterday was draining can’t imagine welding in gear.
And the temps are wet bulb temps. Not dry bulb (thermometer)
But regardless, we have welders in full gear working in S Louisiana heat. We provide cases and cases of bottled water and cool down stations. And heat is a topic of every weekly safety meeting.
Limit alcohol the night before, limit caffeine(coffee and energy drinks) and drink two water bottle fire every Gatorade type drink. If u feel bad tell ur foreman/supervisor.
Just sitting at the LSU game yesterday was draining can’t imagine welding in gear.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:01 am to POTUS2024
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Worst administration in our history.
Not even debatable.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:17 am to burger bearcat
Do our overlords define light, moderate, and Heavy work?
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:20 am to burger bearcat
OSHA is run by globalists who have motives beyond “worker safety”
They use the word “safety” to undermine our productivity so that labor can be had elsewhere cheaper and with loss concern for “safety”
Safety is a rabbit hole. When can a worker ever really be considered “safe”?
They use the word “safety” to undermine our productivity so that labor can be had elsewhere cheaper and with loss concern for “safety”
Safety is a rabbit hole. When can a worker ever really be considered “safe”?
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:34 am to burger bearcat
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The chart they provide makes it basically impossible to work and be peoductive in construction or other manual labor in temperatures over 90 degrees.
Common sense and employers who have any sort of record keeping and are interested in making money by properly managing projects and not by simply working harder have nothing at all to fear...they are already in compliance because they understand it is in their financial best interest and not out of fear of OSHA who has the ability to inspect a workplace once every 80 years or so. I have been in the construction industry in the deep south for 40 years and even in the early 80's we did concrete pours in the wee moning hours because waiting to do them in the heat was a waste of money. Providing shade, fans, cool down areas and water is too much to ask for some employers though...the same employers whose only competitive advantage comes in the form of low wages and little to no benefits.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:43 am to Flats
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Units from the SE had a much easier time acclimating to the sandbox. Dry heat can still take it out of you, but humidity is a killer for evaporative cooling. I saw a guy from the 10th Mountain Div have an issue on the damn flight line after they got off the transport, because they left Ft Drum in January and stepped off the plane in Panama in January, and it was a system shock.
Very few people voluntarily spend a lot of time in heat and humidity today...in the summer most people stay in the AC as much as possible. 50 years ago that was not as common...we spent more time out of the AC because there just wasn't as much AC. People are less heat tolerant today...it takes a minute to get acclimated to high heat and humidity...and the more one is exposed to it the more they can tolerate it. Given the lack of competent tradesmen and skilled labor across all industries most employers who are interested in making money and doing so for more than a few years are taking steps to mitigate this reality without any input from any agency...it is the fly by night shysters relying on cheap customers and corner cutting who make OSHA necessary. Even at that there is one OSHA inspector for every 70,000 workers covered in the US. It would take about 80 years for every worksite in the US today to have an OSHA inspector on site for 15 minutes. Only shysters fear OSHA or feel it is too much regulation...legitimate employees do it because it is necessary to remain in business, not because they fear OSHA...
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:50 am to Taxing Authority
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I’d also like to know how working in 102° temperature today is different than working in 102° temp in 50 years.
Its called acclimation and an aging work force. Folks ain't as heat tolerant today, are not in the same kind of shape and are working past the age when they were retired or dead 50 years ago. It will be even worse 50 years from today. Most 25 year old men today have not spent 25 years playing sports and spending time outdoors like a 25 year old man in 1975 did. It makes a HUGE difference. My dad is 84 years old and has always been more tolerant to heat than me and I am more tolerant than my 24 year old son...because of acclimation.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:52 am to Penrod
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I’m having a new home built, and there are several South/Central American crews working on hardscape, pool and landscape. It’s hot as blazes, and they’re working 11 hour days, no railings around dropoffs, and balancing on top of ladders. It’s awesome! These guys deserve every penny they are being paid - and more!
You should be so proud! Are you willing to pay them more??? I am certain they would not be opposed to the idea of your showing up with some cash and handing it out....how much more you going to pay them?
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:56 am to tketaco
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Wet Bulb? Not even the Army abides to the Wet Bulb. Except maybe black, but that's after several soldiers have fallen out.
Comparing the military to any other industry is ludicrous. First and foremost is the physical requirements of military service that do not apply, for practical purposes, in any other industry. Another major difference is that all military people understand that they could be killed on the job as part of their work even when they have done everything exactly right...no other industries employees expect this as a normal part of their career. The military is tough because it requires it...ultimately the job is one where fighting for your very existence can be a reality. Roofing houses in a civilized society should never be viewed in the same manner.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:57 am to Trevaylin
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Why not just shift the work to night when temperatures are 20 degrees lower. Sure its takes lights/generators but that is cheaper than osha daytime compliance
Legitimate construction companies have been doing just this for decades.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:00 am to AwgustaDawg
I'm pretty sure osha applies to college sports -
They will be shutting down that August home Saturday afternoon game
They will be shutting down that August home Saturday afternoon game
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:56 am to burger bearcat
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Our company safety guy just introduced the new heat stress regulations OSHA has recently implemented, their website specifically says thr new regulations are "because of climate change".
Got a link? All I can find is a mandate to provide potable water and having at least one person on the crew trained to recognize the signs and treatment of heat exhaustion/stroke.
Hardly the debilitating expectations you said.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:59 am to burger bearcat
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their website specifically says thr new regulations are "because of climate change".
It's such a nebulus term. All global climate data is showing we are in the midst of a "global cooling" phase. And yes, the climate is changing. It always has changed, since teh beginning of time. Our climate is not some thermostat on a set gauge. So even if you say, "yeah but all the man-made global warming theories are proving to be false", they can say, "we just said climate change, we didnt' say how it was changing".
Posted on 6/5/23 at 9:07 am to burger bearcat
We have had enclosed trailers with AC we stage near the work areas for a while. Most of our clients have this in their site safety plan. They also don't understand why they stay full all day.
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 9:08 am
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