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re: Oregon mandates training for state workers to not cooperate with Trump deportation plans

Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:01 pm to
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Oregon mandates training for state workers to not cooperate with Trump deportation plans

So Oregon has goven, in writing, an order for state government employees to deliberately violate 8 U.S.C. § 1324?

That seems really smart.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
23173 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:07 pm to
The Trump administration needs to drop the hammer on any state or city that refuses to cooperate with the effort to deport illegals who have no right to be in this country.
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
8110 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:12 pm to
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States cant make up laws.


They have. 20+ states have laws that say its legal to grow, possess, use and sell marijuana and the feds do nothing about it.
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:13 pm to
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Screw that, cut anything that crosses state lines, highways, internet, water, power, airport, SWIFT banking system, ocean freight crossing federal waters. Lets see what kind of pioneers they really are.


What the heck, mate. I live in Oregon.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46368 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:13 pm to
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They have. 20+ states have laws that say its legal to grow, possess, use and sell marijuana and the feds do nothing about it.


That’s a choice. Doesn’t mean they can’t, it would just be politically stupid.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:34 pm to
Simple: cut all Fed funding.

Good luck
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:38 pm to
We should allow states to opt out of deportation…and they don’t get a penny more in aid. If you can pay for it then knock yourselves out. States rights.
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 12:39 pm
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
8651 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:46 pm to
What kind of training are they given for discontinuing federal funds to state of Oregon?
Posted by Megasaurus
Member since Dec 2017
1628 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 12:56 pm to
Oregon mandates training for state workers to not cooperate with Trump deportation plans

this is a simple fix and can be a "teachable moment"...

step 1 is to arrest and prosecute those who are actually preaking the law, all the way up to the governer if need be, have to go zero tolerence here.

step 2 is simply suspend ALL federal funding until they are compliant with federal law

step 3 is give them all the help they dont want in the form of federal law enforcement investigations... leave no stone unturned..(regardless of what their politics are, no politicians; state or local govt. workers want feds snooping around)..
start at the bottom and work up, the front line supervisors at the jails should be the starting point.., they will be forced to comply with the law or prove they were given clear direction to obstruct federal laws, either way this 100% will be the best way to nip this shite in the bud. A sgt. in the jail making 20 bucks an hour aint tring to get federalized over a bunch of amigos he dont even know..not happening.. a little heat and they crumble
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
5300 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:08 pm to
All they need to do is start withholding federal highway funds from Oregon and they would change their tune in 24 hours, Trump needs to go hard after states that do this. He is chief executive and should withhold all federal funding.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2402 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:14 pm to
I agree. Let Oregon and others have all the supposed benefits of illegals. My guess is they will move to the right in kess than a generation.


Posted by Chief One Word
Eastern Washington State
Member since Mar 2018
4254 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:16 pm to
Frick it. It's payback time!
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:16 pm to
Check out these Portland area double maskers in January 2025

Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
11240 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:20 pm to
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Literal treason.


State and local officials do not have to comply with federal agents. They can't obstruct, but they don't have to assist.

So if ICE comes in for a raid, Sheriff's officers can't impede, but they don't have to help. Illegals are breaking federal law and are subject to federal arrests.

It's modern day nullification

More Red States should try it.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2402 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:21 pm to
Is the law clear?

I am honestly asking.
So a sheriff is sent a request/demand that a person in their custody be held for an additiinal 3 or 4 days past sentence or other court/statutory/regulatory release time to give ICE time to come pick up the inmate.
Without a court order how is it legal to hold that person? I mean I don't think Congress can just pass a law ordering States to imprison people just based on a federal agency's request/demand.

Am I missing something?
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21904 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28537 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:42 pm to
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Illegals are breaking federal law and are subject to federal arrests.



Along with anyone who aids them.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21904 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19305 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 1:49 pm to
Holman will have them crying before long
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Member since Aug 2019
11705 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 2:03 pm to
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Trump needs to go hard in the paint on this rhetoric. Jail them. They are obstructing a federal order

Agreed. This is aiding and abetting foreign agents. Trump may be justified in sending the Army to arrest these people.
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