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re: opportunity to beat down Russia

Posted on 3/4/23 at 9:54 am to
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 9:54 am to
quote:

your gop war to take over the middle east didn't work out.
bush war to pretend to look for bin laudin and pretend al quaida was helping iraq and to hood wink you about non existent WMDs has nothing to do with defending eastern Europe vs the megalomaniac Putin.



Let me help...

Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 9:56 am to
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the premise of expanding war to Iraq was a Cheney lie.


No it was a Victoria Nuland created lie THEN

It is Victoria Nuland created lies now.

and she works for neocon forever war (TM) after learning everything from Paul Wolfowitz; second child of Jacob Wolfowitz born in Brooklyn, New York into a Polish Jewish immigrant family. (Oh cwill!!!!)

it is time to stop sending young men to their slaughter for Dick Cheney's forever war. Dick Cheney predominantly English, as well as Welsh, Irish, and French Huguenot ancestry

...and his point person, Victoria Nuland - Nuland was born in 1961 to Sherwin B. Nuland, born to Eastern European Jewish immigrants.

Nuland was responsible for tricking decent people into the "weapons of mass destruction" lie and the Iraqi War interation of forever war (TM).

Wolfowitz was responsible for the "Iraqis taking babies out of incubators and putting them on the floor to die" lies that tricked decent people into the Kuwaiti iteration of forever war (TM)

They continue to this day - and need to be removed from this godless pursuit
This post was edited on 3/4/23 at 10:07 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298333 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 9:58 am to
quote:


interference in 2016 election.


How many elections do you think we interfere with?

I can tell you about one for sure, Ukraine in 2014

Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 9:59 am to
quote:

use the manufacturing might of us, Germany and England to out produce Putin.
missiles
tanks
artillery


Now throw in Chinese manufacturing might into the mix.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117512 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 9:59 am to
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interference in 2016 election.

Didn't happen. Totally fake.

quote:

end the adventurism of Putin. the new tsar. transnistra. next Moldova next. how about Latvia? are the Russians returning Karelia they took from Finland in 1939?


Why is it America's concern?

There are about 20 territorial wars going on somewhere on the planet every day. If it's our job to return Karelia to Finland then why shouldn't we restore the govts in Africa that have been taken over by their neighbors?
Hell, let's invade Mexico and return it to Spain.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13497 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:01 am to
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use the manufacturing might of us, Germany and England to out produce Putin. missiles tanks artillery


So make the MIC buddies of his a ton of money perpetuating a war that shouldn’t still be going on if not for US and British interference in peace talks.

Yeah, this is a guy we should listen to.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
46901 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:03 am to
quote:

make production the western winning plan.


So, make the West great again?

Huh.
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1885 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:04 am to
Yes, but the US is doing 90% of the work.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42067 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:05 am to
quote:

They’re not hurting us. They’re not a threat us. I couldn’t care less about Russia and their REGIONAL CONFLICT with a corrupt Ukraine.


All this ^
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10501 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:05 am to
Why would I care about Russia.

Unless your plan weakens the US Federal government, I am not interested
This post was edited on 3/4/23 at 10:06 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298333 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:06 am to
quote:

the premise of expanding war to Iraq was a Cheney lie.


No it was a Victoria Nuland created lie THEN


Democrats fail to understand the monstrosity of the bureaucratic machine and that they are the ones in control..
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
22149 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:09 am to
quote:

gop war to take over the middle east didn't work out


True

quote:

bush war to pretend to look for bin laudin and pretend al quaida was helping iraq and to hood wink you about non existent WMDs


True

quote:

has nothing to do with defending eastern Europe vs the megalomaniac Putin.


Ahhh so this war is “different”…

Lol what a joke.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:16 am to
quote:

without all in production putin wins.

Russia isn't going to win long-term. Their economy and population are in severe decline. Even if they take Ukraine, Poland, and Romania in the short-term, they're not going to have the money or manpower to occupy them in 30 years. They're just buying time.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55156 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:27 am to
I have a funny feeling that if it was the Soviet Union invading Ukraine instead of non-Soviet Russia, your position on this matter would be completely different.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88945 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:31 am to
quote:

use the manufacturing might of us, Germany and England to out produce Putin.
missiles
tanks
artillery


Pretty sure we’re already doing that by ourselves, numbnuts.

Take a hint, Otto. The money being sent to Ukraine is NOT primarily being used to buy arms. Do the math.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17100 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 10:32 am to
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Have we not fought enough wars in the last 20 years?




Have we not already saved Europe twice?

Screw them.
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
Member since Nov 2021
4963 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 11:13 am to
We should be on Putins side.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32680 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 11:18 am to
When did the Right get so weak on national security issues?

Massive own goal
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9777 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 11:22 am to
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without all in production putin wins.


Ok cool.

Dont give a frick. Not my problem.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10501 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 11:46 am to
quote:

When did the Right get so weak on national security issues?


Do we not talk about the border every day? No one gives a shite about Ukrain.
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