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re: One hospice Dr in Cali billed Medicare $71.7 million in one year

Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17474 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:00 pm to
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Of Bhuva's 2,791 patients, according to state and federal records reviewed by CBS News, fewer than 2% died in 2024.


Obviously giving the right prescription:
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10346 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:03 pm to
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If he never took a day off in 2024, literally worked 365 days; thats almost 8 patients a DAY certifying as terminally ill

Assume working 5 days a week and never taking any time off (other than typical weekend or 2 days a week), thats almost 11 PER DAY


It's amazing and ballsy as hell to be that openly corrupt. We talk about zero fricks given. This jackass lived that life every single day.
This post was edited on 4/7/26 at 4:03 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128797 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:06 pm to
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Surely lots of workers in these facilities noticed no one was dying.


Hospice care typically happens at home or in an assisted living or nursing home. The majority of hospice patients are in the home.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128797 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:08 pm to
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Why is a single dr allowed to bill for $71.7 million? Why weren't transactions flagged as the number invoiced crept up and up beyond typical billing levels for similar service providers? Especially since the story mentioned they just convicted another guy a year before.


The doctor didn’t bill for $71.7M. He was likely contracting for multiple hospices as an associate medical director in charge of hospice certifications. So, he might have done as little as signed off on an advanced practicioner’s assessment of the patient. Doesn’t change the fraud. But it’s not like the OP presents it.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55308 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:10 pm to
We Americans are being robbed blind and neither major political party has ever bothered to stop it.

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45560 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:12 pm to
1. This is absurd and so wrong.

2. Where do I go to look for hospice doctor jobs in California?
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1865 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:13 pm to
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Many absurdities in this story, but there's clearly a systemic failure.


My first thought as well.
Are Medicare/Medicaid administrators just on a perpetual coffee break?
Posted by Sharlo
Van down by the river.
Member since Oct 2021
1625 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:13 pm to
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The doctor didn’t bill for $71.7M. He was likely contracting for multiple hospices as an associate medical director in charge of hospice certifications. So, he might have done as little as signed off on an advanced practicioner’s assessment of the patient. Doesn’t change the fraud. But it’s not like the OP presents it.


Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying. The govt is still dumb AF for not sniffing it out sooner.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8612 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:13 pm to
Is anyone shocked its in California? No idea why anyone would want to live in that liberal shithole.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10346 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:14 pm to
I still can't get over that 98% didn't pass away. Okay, some survived... 6% I could maybe buy into. My maternal grandmother was in hospice for a long time so there's a safe % for me to allow for. But 98% is just so ridiculous on its face.

Is sending this guy to jail a worse punishment than sending his arse back to India? Or can we have both along with going after his bank account?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128797 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:15 pm to
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Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying. The govt is still dumb AF for not sniffing it out sooner.


Absolutely.

I identified four likely fraudulent hospices in Van Nuys by looking at three different reports.

The level of fraud is so bad that the lack of enforcement is purposeful.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128797 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:17 pm to
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I still can't get over that 98% didn't pass away. Okay, some survived... 6% I could maybe buy into. My maternal grandmother was in hospice for a long time so there's a safe % for me to allow for. But 98% is just so ridiculous on its face.


Live hospice discharges are around 16% nationally. If you had a 98% discharge rate in a six month period in our neck of the woods, the state of Missouri would shut you down. No questions asked. Just show up and ask you to hand over your files and start evaluating patients for potential transfers to other hospices.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10346 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:20 pm to
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If you had a 98% discharge rate in a six month period in our neck of the woods, the state of Missouri would shut you down. No questions asked.


we could use some of that out here. Well, a lot of that from the looks of the reporting.
Posted by FMtTXtiger
Member since Oct 2018
5318 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:22 pm to
unbelievable
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19307 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:22 pm to
Idk. If I was dying I’d want his services as he seems only second to the creator
Posted by Sharlo
Van down by the river.
Member since Oct 2021
1625 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:24 pm to
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I identified four likely fraudulent hospices in Van Nuys by looking at three different reports.

The level of fraud is so bad that the lack of enforcement is purposeful.


I have no idea what your background is, and maybe you're some kind of healthcare fraud savant. But most of the time a little bit of common sense and skepticism is what's missing.

Most people have no idea how unfit to serve some of the administrators and middle mgt levels of govt actually are.

I've had to work with career bureaucrats from different agencies at different (crappy) points in my career. With few exceptions, anyone who's been eeking it out in those agencies for 5+ years is just this side of brain dead. The smart and motivated ones get in, get some stripes, and get out fast to make bank from a consulting firm that is paid to make incompetent agencies look capable.

The ones that linger on are lazy, entitled, resistant to change, afraid of ruffling feathers, and most importantly for cases like this, just profoundly uninterested in going a good job. They want to push paper and feather their nests with as little effort as possible.

The common sense part of the brain is switched off, and it would never occur to them to wonder how one doc is signing off on $71.7 MM of death.

Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29727 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:27 pm to
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Arrest him and everyone who benefitted from this, have them make a rowboat in prison, tow them 100 miles out towards India, and tell them good luck.


Send him to Florida and put him in a cell with The Hammerin' Haitian.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26630 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:28 pm to
Minnesota will have nothing on California fraud if we can truly ever get to the bottom of it.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13053 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:29 pm to
Cost a lot to kick the bucket?…
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32071 posts
Posted on 4/7/26 at 4:30 pm to
The fact that the Medicare system as a whole doesn't pick up fraudulent claims and massive activity like this is astounding. A damn excel spreadsheet listing the doctors name (ID #) and his patient load would trigger red flags. It's not that damn hard to put guardrails in place to monitor shite like this.

There are no quality controls in place at any level for Medicare/Medicaid in this government.
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