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re: Oil Prices drop to 17 year low as Saudis and Russia continue price war

Posted on 3/30/20 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
1819 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

Strat refinery back at full operation


Many refineries (Exxon has, others to follow) are cutting production now due to a lack of consumption of Jet fuel, gasoline, and diesel.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
14405 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 5:43 pm to
1- It would be nice if Russia lost money, and Putin couldn’t afford to be a bad actor.
2- Wish we would do this to China.
3- U. S. Government vehicles must burn U. S. Sourced petroleum products by EO for “National Security”. This keeps oil companies producing American oil, albeit less.
4- Americans get to enjoy cheap fuel until the Saudis break Putin’s will.

Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173789 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

1- It would be nice if Russia lost money, and Putin couldn’t afford to be a bad actor.

That's definitely a benefit to be considered

quote:

4- Americans get to enjoy cheap fuel until the Saudis break Putin’s will.

Posted by TRex
Member since Mar 2020
339 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 5:59 pm to
Wrong dum arse
Posted by Smittywerbenjagerman
Member since Mar 2020
17 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 5:59 pm to
Wonder how low gas will go
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:00 pm to
The solution is to slap a processing tax on every barrel of foreign crude oil that is refined in America.

Louisiana continues to rely on the severance tax enacted in 1921, meaning we tax only the oil and gas produced in our state and within 3 miles of our coast.

A modest 4% Louisiana state processing tax would yield approximately $6 billion/year.

But the Louisiana state legislature is beholden to the oil and gas lobby, and won't pass it.
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
12176 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:01 pm to
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Wonder how low gas will go



Station out front of our neighborhood:

8:20 am $1.89

5:35 pm $1.87



Lowest I have seen
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46185 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:01 pm to
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I saw $1.29 one place.

Holy crap. The cheapest we found it out here was $2.79. It was still almost $3.50 most places. Stupid California.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134935 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:02 pm to
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Oil Prices drop to 17 year low
quote:

At what point do we acknowledge that the Saudis aren't our allies?
Low oil prices benefit over 85% of Americans. Those Americans think the Saudis are helping them...
Posted by MaxDraft
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2019
574 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:04 pm to
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Unconstitutional


Is it though? The Jones Act requires, among many other things, that all maritime shipments between two US ports must be handled on US flagged vessels with primarily US crews.

If we can control that, why would it be unconstitutional to only allow US oil products? That doesn't make any sense.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:04 pm to
Q led us to believe that Trump fixed the Saudis right after he was sworn in.

I expect Trump to fix this very soon
Posted by JasonL79
Houston area
Member since Jan 2010
6425 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:16 pm to
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It might make up a decent portion of LA's economy but LA's contribution to oil and gas is pretty much minimal other than supporting GOM operations.


I wouldn’t go that far. LA has a pretty high refining capacity, chemical production, and is building several large LNG plants.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 6:18 pm
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:21 pm to



Too low, bro? Or did we get what he asked for?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:22 pm to
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There is a simple solution to this. Uncap our oil wells, Strat refinery back at full operation and only allow the sell of oil based products in the US that came from Oil in the US. Stabilize our gas prices and then tell them to frick off and let them fight it out.


Say hello to $200/bbl domestic oil and $10/gal gas! I'll take it!
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173789 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:22 pm to
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Wonder how low gas will go

Eventually the excises taxes might make up 50% of the price depending on where you live
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:24 pm to
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Wonder how low gas will go


Negative pricing - you get $0.50/gal!
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37353 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:25 pm to
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US oil products


Define US oil product

Entirely made/extracted in the US?

Was every single piece of equipment and machinery made in the US?
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 6:30 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37353 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:26 pm to
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Wrong dum arse


Ok. Name one product made entirely in the United States in the energy sector that receives zero material goods from abroad in the production chain. Just one.

The end result of what you apparently support results in arbitrary distinctions made on products sold domestically between states. Ergo, unconstitutional. “You cannot buy that Texas company’s product because the component metals are Chinese, and have to buy that Mississippi product instead” is not legal without a significant showing by the government that foreign materials are dangerous, and not just economically
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:29 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/2/21 at 4:48 am
Posted by JasonL79
Houston area
Member since Jan 2010
6425 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:35 pm to
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Shell pulled out of the LC project today.


Word on the street before things went south was this was going to happen anyway. I work in the industry so I heard it at least. Energy Transfer still may go through with it on their own.

We still have several being built and more planned. A few of them may delay FID but will still likely go ahead in next 12-18 months.

This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 6:36 pm
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