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Posted on 5/14/18 at 3:45 pm to RobbBobb
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g, told me a “far more significant issue” is whether the earlier FBI operation was even legal: “It’s possible the bureau’s arrangement with Mr. Deripaska violated the Antideficiency Act, which prohibits the government from accepting voluntary services.”
no one has ever been convicted or indicted of this Act in its 120 year history
so good luck hanging on this one
Posted on 5/14/18 at 3:46 pm to Salmon
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no one has ever been convicted or indicted of this Act in its 120 year history
sounds like we are due?
Posted on 5/14/18 at 3:46 pm to Salmon
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no one has ever been convicted or indicted of this Act in its 120 year history
so good luck hanging on this one
Yeah, it probably won't stick, but this definitely doesn't look good for the investigation
Posted on 5/14/18 at 3:47 pm to RobbBobb
quote:I doubt the 8 diplomatic visas were offered by the DOJ (probably state department), and since they were from 2011, those were likely approved John Kerry's state department since Hillary and Mueller were replaced in 2013.
On 8 occasions?
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 5/14/18 at 3:48 pm to HailToTheChiz
Well, it is all true. There is a book out there detailing the entire operation.
This just falls right into the hands of Manafort. The judge specifically called out Muellers team for selective prosecution of Manafort as a means to get at Trump. Now Manafort can point to this Russian oligarch being left out of his indictment, because Mueller had reason to protect him
That judge is just gonna LOVE to hear this
This just falls right into the hands of Manafort. The judge specifically called out Muellers team for selective prosecution of Manafort as a means to get at Trump. Now Manafort can point to this Russian oligarch being left out of his indictment, because Mueller had reason to protect him
That judge is just gonna LOVE to hear this
Posted on 5/14/18 at 3:48 pm to RobbBobb
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Mueller may have a conflict
Nah not based upon what’s included in that opinion piece.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 3:49 pm to Salmon
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no one has ever been convicted or indicted of this Act in its 120 year history
so good luck hanging on this one
List for me the people convicted of election 'collusion' in the last 120 years?
Yet theres a 2 year investigation underway??
Posted on 5/14/18 at 3:49 pm to Salmon
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no one has ever been convicted or indicted of this Act in its 120 year history so good luck hanging on this one
The bigger implications are onto Mueller and this investigation, not potential legal ramifications for him.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 3:50 pm to RobbBobb
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List for me the people convicted of election 'collusion' in the last 120 years?
Yet theres a 2 year investigation underway??
and it is a giant waste of time
Posted on 5/14/18 at 3:50 pm to buckeye_vol
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John Kerry
You mean the guy running all over the world because he might have violated Iranian sanctions with the nuclear deal?
Posted on 5/14/18 at 3:51 pm to RobbBobb
quote:Well nobody is going to be charged with collusion, since it's not a crime. Just like dying is not a crime, but the investigation into someone's death may or may not reveal crimes related to the death.
List for me the people convicted of election 'collusion' in the last 120 years?
Yet theres a 2 year investigation underway??
Posted on 5/14/18 at 3:52 pm to RobbBobb
quote:Yes. Probably would be a more appropriate focus of the story then.
You mean the guy running all over the world because he might have violated Iranian sanctions with the nuclear deal?
Posted on 5/14/18 at 3:52 pm to buckeye_vol
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since they were from 2011, those were likely approved John Kerry's state department since Hillary and Mueller were replaced in 2013.
HA! So, they call out 2011 and your defense of HRC is well.. it was under Kerry 2 years later?
Posted on 5/14/18 at 3:53 pm to 9th life
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Im not disputing you but what is the charge?
Collusion, with a side order of obstruction.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 3:55 pm to Jjdoc
quote:Well it doesn't give many details (when they started in 2011; when they were provided; what was the basis for them), so the person who was in the position longer would seem to be the more likely person to approve the majority of them. More details could clear that up though. But you can throw in Hillary too, it just seemed Kerry was likely the one who approved the majority.
HA! So, they call out 2011 and your defense of HRC is well.. it was under Kerry 2 years later?
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 5/14/18 at 4:01 pm to RobbBobb
The Bob Levinson case is fascinating. I feel so bad for the poor guy and his family. He’s probably dead by now unfortunately.
Posted on 5/14/18 at 4:04 pm to RobbBobb
quote:Actually a little basic research on Solomon's part would have revealed how he obtained the visas since it was already reported on in the Washington Post last year:
On 8 occasions?
The Russian billionaire next door: Putin ally is tied to one of D.C.’s swankiest mansions
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Deripaska did enter the United States a handful of times using a diplomatic passport, issued to him by the Russian government so he could help assist at summit meetings and other trade missions, according to documents filed in the New York court case.
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 5/14/18 at 4:05 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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The Bob Levinson case is fascinating. I feel so bad for the poor guy and his family. He’s probably dead by now unfortunately.
How did the FBI get Deripaska to spring for this? Just the visa? $25 million sounds steep to enter the U.S. a handful of times. Seems like the antideficiency act argument is weird. It's illegal to make for the FBI to get in-kind cooperation from a foreign national? They have to pay him currency through a government contract?
This post was edited on 5/14/18 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 5/14/18 at 4:17 pm to RobbBobb
Time is not on Meuller's side; from the beginning, the very idea that He would *investigate* Trump's links with Russia...but not Hillary's, totally de-legitimizes the whole sordid scenario as being just what Trump labels it... "a witchhunt".
It's hard to believe that a Man as supposedly smart (not to mention patriotic/honorable) as Meuller, would go down this rathole. Especially if He despised the corruption in the Obama Cabal enough so that He resigned.
Will be interesting to see this all unfold. A big crash and burn is coming.
It's hard to believe that a Man as supposedly smart (not to mention patriotic/honorable) as Meuller, would go down this rathole. Especially if He despised the corruption in the Obama Cabal enough so that He resigned.
Will be interesting to see this all unfold. A big crash and burn is coming.
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