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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:45 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:45 am to BayouBengal51
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Yep. Why the hell we chose to even listen to Pakistan, much less stop a winning play to help their muzzie brethren regroup is a mystery to me. We had them on the ropes and the IRGC and the Basij were at the point of collapse.
Instead, we take our foot off the gas, allow them to regroup, only to find out that Pakistan allowed Iran to hide military assets in Pakistani territory while they were playing host to "Peace talks".
Just about everyone knows Pakistan is a two faced lying whore but we decided to give them the spotlight anyways.
Those muzzie bastards only respect and understand one thing, and that is strength. The best way to negotiate with them is to eliminate them or do so much damage to them, they become afraid to screw with you.
For some reason, Trump thinks very highly of Pakistan's military chief, who has close ties to the IRGC.
On April 18th, Trump said this about the Pakistani military chief:
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Trump has repeatedly praised him, calling Munir an "exceptional man," a "great fighter" and "my favorite field marshal."
Full story from Fox News
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:47 am to tigervet4
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I thought the blockade was supposed to bring the IRGC to it's knees, is that not still the plan?
It is looking more and more like Trump just wants out.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:47 am to hawgfaninc
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Iran has submitted a revised 14-point proposal through the Pakistani mediator, who would then convey it to the Americans, the IRGC-affiliated Tasnim news agency reports citing a source close to the negotiating team. Iran's new proposal "focuses on ending the war and confidence-building measures by the American side," the source said.
So no different than the last one?
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:48 am to TurkeyBaconLeg
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At this point, its time to go back and finish the job militarily and include their sources of income in the target package.
It seems that Trump disagrees with you. He's negotiating again.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:58 am to hawgfaninc
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Iran’s revised proposal reportedly calls for a permanent end to the war, full sanctions relief, and the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz.
Iran’s nuclear program would be addressed only in later stages of the negotiations.
In short, nothing changed. President Trump will not be happy.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:00 am to hawgfaninc
He will give them a couple more weeks again 
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:00 am to hawgfaninc
I agree Trump just wants out.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:12 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:15 am to hawgfaninc
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:17 am to hawgfaninc
Operation Freedom should have never been suspended.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:24 am to hawgfaninc
Destroy every bridge at every choke point leading out of Iran into Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Stop the flow of goods over land.
Stop the flow of goods over land.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:28 am to TulsaSooner78
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For some reason, Trump thinks very highly of Pakistan's military chief, who has close ties to the IRGC.
His infatuation with that guy is puzzling. The guy is a POS who has helped and trained IRGC forces for years. He should be on the receiving end of a hellfire missile and not the end of of a glowing review from POTUS.
He is just another Muslim practicing the art of Taqiyya. They are all lying dirt bags who cannot be trusted.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:52 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:04 am to geoag58
Ya, well he can't laugh, walk away, and file bankruptcy on this one.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:12 am to hawgfaninc
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BREAKING: Iran has sent an updated proposal for a deal to end the war, but the White House believes it is "insufficient for a deal," per Axios. President Trump is now expected to convene his top national security team in the Situation Room on Tuesday to discuss military options. A senior US official said that if Iran will not shift its position, the US will have to continue negotiations "through bombs." Trump is reportedly considering resuming the Iran War due to Iran's rejection of many of his demands. Peace talks continue to show little progress.
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:14 am to hawgfaninc
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If tweet fails to load, click here. They made an X account to give themselves power over the strait
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:16 am to TroutGuy
We are now preparing to begin preparations of beginning to look at preparing to begin military preparations.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:23 am to Tigerstark
Yeah, this really, really needs to be the time that the threat is actually backed up. It's great to go the extra mile for peace and all that, but we've now done that in spades. Maybe turning out the electricity in Iran won't force the regime to yield, but there's only one way to find out.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:28 am to TurkeyBaconLeg
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I think it was worth trying to negotiate a deal with Iran to see what could be done.
Nope. What good is an peace deal when they IRGC will not honor it.
Negotiations are pointless.
It could be argued that the cease fire was never about a peace deal, but instead about, allowing the IRGC to weaken when the can't pay the foot soldiers and other reasons.
ANYONE (Trump included) that thinks negotiations to hopefully strike a deal is a good option is dumber than a sack or bricks.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:53 am to hawgfaninc
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Trump is VERY transparent. That post perfectly expresses his utter frustration.
Opening the Strait of Hormuz is not just a matter of will. We don’t have a sustainable military answer right now because we don't have a defensive shield against asymmetric warfare (cheap drones and missiles), as Ukraine has against Russia.
When the U.S. launched Project Freedom roughly two weeks ago, three guided-missile destroyers were sent through the Strait to escort commercial shipping.
The Navy came under a sustained barrage of Iranian drones and missiles and intercepted 100% of the attacks.
Yet the defensive effort after just two days was extraordinarily resource-intensive. It nearly depleted the missile magazines of two Guided-Missile Destroyers and required support from more than 100 aircraft (F-35 fighters and attack helicopters). It costs an estimated $50–100 million to get just two commercial ships through safely over two days.
This model is completely unsustainable beyond a brief demonstration. The U.S. cannot realistically guarantee a perfect interception record against repeated sustained barrages.
All it would take is one drone or missile getting through, and the images of a burning American warship would be a major political disaster.
Below, Trump isn’t raging at the media alone. He’s raging because we don't have a cost-effective Military solution (money and lives at risk) to opening the Strait.
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