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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 5/17/26 at 8:30 pm to PsychTiger
Posted on 5/17/26 at 8:30 pm to PsychTiger
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What sanctions did she place on you?
She probably only has the one lever to pull. But it’s a big one.
This post was edited on 5/17/26 at 8:31 pm
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Posted on 5/17/26 at 8:47 pm to Penrod
Posted on 5/17/26 at 8:52 pm to Penrod
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What sanctions did she place on you? She probably only has the one lever to pull. But it’s a big one.
Fist bump, creative response is creative.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 3:33 am to wfallstiger
So what do we expect this week, more mean tweets?
Trump is between a rock and a hard place and he doesn't have the nuts to finish this.
Trump is between a rock and a hard place and he doesn't have the nuts to finish this.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 4:00 am to BayouBengal51
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?? Dozens of cargo aircraft transported munitions from U.S. bases in Germany to Israel over the past 24 hours.
Can't help but wonder if this is in response to the Israeli factory explosion a few days ago. The factory produced rocket propellant. Don't know if it also made munitions.
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 5:17 am to demtigers73
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So what do we expect this week, more mean tweets?
Trump is between a rock and a hard place and he doesn't have the nuts to finish this.
I always check the Al Jazeera live feed first thing in the morning.
There are a couple of conflicting reports.
One says that negotiations are ongoing again through Pakistan:
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Iran’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson says talks are ongoing with the US through Pakistan as the mediator.
Another says that the US is expected to strike Iran within 24 - 48 hours:
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It appears that the US will resume its war on Iran in the next day or two, says Mohamad Elmasry, professor of media studies at the Doha Institute of Graduate Studies.
This is because Trump “has got a lot of different people in his ear”, including Netanyahu and “very hawkish people” within his own administration, he told Al Jazeera.
“He hasn’t gotten the kind of capitulation that he’s wanted from the Iranians, and he expected from the Iranians,” said Elmasry, adding that Trump also “expected negotiations to go differently” and had high expectations during his recent summit in China with President Xi Jinping.
Elmasry said it would be wise for Trump to end the war at this point, given that it has been “a real disaster for him” and for the US from a political and economic standpoint.
However, he is unlikely to do so “because Trump cannot go back at this point to the American people with a convincing victory declaration”.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 5:23 am to TulsaSooner78
Miss Lindsey still unhappy:
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Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., on Sunday called for more U.S. military action in Iran, saying the ongoing stalemate in the war is “hurting us all.”
“I think the status quo is hurting us all. The longer the [Strait of Hormuz] is closed, the more we try to pursue a deal that never happens, the stronger Iran gets,” Graham told NBC News’ “Meet the Press.”
Graham added that so far in the Iran conflict, “there’s nothing to suggest that the people in charge now are any different in terms of the regime’s goal to terrorize the world, destroy Israel, come after us.”
He called on President Donald Trump to, “weaken them further.”
“What President Trump has done has been amazing militarily, but there’s more targets to be had, and there’s things we can do to hurt [Iran],” the South Carolina senator said.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 7:18 am to OccamsStubble
I hate to say it but here it is: I agree her on military action.
Cease fires are almost always a dumb choice for one side. We got what we needed after the first two weeks and at that point it was time to resume.
We had the IRGC at almost its breaking point. Not talking about the leadership. All we needed to do thru a number of possible different paths we to start killing the foot soldiers and very shortly the IRGC leadership would have had nobody to command.
Cease fires are almost always a dumb choice for one side. We got what we needed after the first two weeks and at that point it was time to resume.
We had the IRGC at almost its breaking point. Not talking about the leadership. All we needed to do thru a number of possible different paths we to start killing the foot soldiers and very shortly the IRGC leadership would have had nobody to command.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 7:51 am to omegaman66
Ceasefire was a mistake and trying to make a deal is a mistake
Posted on 5/18/26 at 7:58 am to ninthward
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Ceasefire was a mistake and trying to make a deal is a mistake
I’m afraid Trump has gotten played badly by Pakistan throughout this whole conflict.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 7:59 am to ninthward
Time to just finish the job. Okay to pause due to world perception but now diplomacy has completely failed. Eradicate them. Good news is that Iran’s neighbors are not on Iran’s side due to Iran continuing to constantly attack them.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:06 am to omegaman66
Frankly the moment we bombed their long term leader it had to be a full regime change. There is no choice.
Nuclear ambition is their only potential long term survival strategy as a regime - from their point of view. Without it they will always be vulnerable. Our strikes proved that to them.
Nuclear ambition is their only potential long term survival strategy as a regime - from their point of view. Without it they will always be vulnerable. Our strikes proved that to them.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:13 am to Victor R Franko
How do they know munitions were transported?
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:14 am to ninthward
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Ceasefire was a mistake and trying to make a deal is a mistake
Yep. Why the hell we chose to even listen to Pakistan, much less stop a winning play to help their muzzie brethren regroup is a mystery to me. We had them on the ropes and the IRGC and the Basij were at the point of collapse.
Instead, we take our foot off the gas, allow them to regroup, only to find out that Pakistan allowed Iran to hide military assets in Pakistani territory while they were playing host to "Peace talks".
Just about everyone knows Pakistan is a two faced lying whore but we decided to give them the spotlight anyways.
Those muzzie bastards only respect and understand one thing, and that is strength. The best way to negotiate with them is to eliminate them or do so much damage to them, they become afraid to screw with you.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:26 am to OccamsStubble
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:28 am to hawgfaninc
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Iran has submitted a revised 14-point proposal through the Pakistani mediator, who would then convey it to the Americans, the IRGC-affiliated Tasnim news agency reports citing a source close to the negotiating team. Iran's new proposal "focuses on ending the war and confidence-building measures by the American side," the source said.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:32 am to BayouBengal51
I think it was worth trying to negotiate a deal with Iran to see what could be done.
At this point, its time to go back and finish the job militarily and include their sources of income in the target package.
At this point, its time to go back and finish the job militarily and include their sources of income in the target package.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:34 am to BayouBengal51
I thought the blockade was supposed to bring the IRGC to it's knees, is that not still the plan?
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:34 am to Tigerstark
I will add one thing - the ceasefire allowed us and our allies to prepare and build up inventory and potentially add layers of drone defense etc.
Iran was potentially able to get access to some launchers but their ability to manufacture weapons would be very limited. They may have been able to import some things but the balance of military supplies heavily favors us during the ceasefire.
If we were able to strengthen defenses around our bases and key areas of allies it will have been time well spent. If not then it will have been a waste.
Iran was potentially able to get access to some launchers but their ability to manufacture weapons would be very limited. They may have been able to import some things but the balance of military supplies heavily favors us during the ceasefire.
If we were able to strengthen defenses around our bases and key areas of allies it will have been time well spent. If not then it will have been a waste.
Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:41 am to TakingStock
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I’m afraid Trump has gotten played badly by Pakistan throughout this whole conflict.
Trump is enamored with their PM and military chief. He is constantly heaping praise upon them.
From Fox News, April 18th:
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President Donald Trump publicly thanked what he called Pakistan’s "great prime minister and field marshal, two fantastic people!!!" in a Truth Social post Friday praising Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and Pakistan’s military chief, Asim Munir.
Sharif quickly responded on X, "On behalf of the people of Pakistan, Field Marshal Syed Asim Munir, and on my behalf, I express my deep and profound appreciation for your kind and gracious words."
The public exchange capped a remarkable rise for Munir, who has become one of the few foreign officials trusted both by Trump and by Iran’s security establishment.
Munir recently became the first foreign military leader to visit Iran since the latest escalation between the United States and Iran, according to Pakistani and Iranian reports. Arriving in full military uniform, he was warmly greeted by Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi and held meetings with senior Iranian military officials.
Retired Pakistani Gen. Ahmed Saeed told Fox News Digital that Munir has for months served as an informal back channel between Washington and Tehran, Iran, as the Trump administration tries to negotiate an end to the conflict, Iran’s nuclear program and the naval blockade in the Persian Gulf.
Few foreign figures appear to have closer ties both to Trump and to Iran’s military hierarchy.
That has raised a striking question: How did the same man become close both to Trump and to some of Iran’s most powerful commanders?
Saeed, who said he has known Munir personally for years, told Fox News Digital that Munir began building ties with Iran while serving as Pakistan’s director general of military intelligence in 2016 and 2017.
"He has been interacting with the leadership. He has been interacting with the intelligence community. He has been interacting with the IRGC," or the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Saeed said.
According to Saeed, Munir built ties not only with the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps but also with Iran’s regular army and intelligence apparatus. Saeed said Munir had longstanding contact with former Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Quds Force commander Qassem Soleimani, who was killed in a U.S. strike in 2020, commander Hossein Salami, who was killed in an Israeli strike in June 2025, and other Iranian military figures.
"He continues to be a figure internationally who has personal interactions, a personal equation in the intelligence community in Iran, in the military hierarchy in Iran, in the diplomatic corps of Iran and also on the side of the political leadership," Saeed said.
That longstanding relationship appears to explain why Iran welcomed him so warmly, even as he remains in direct contact with Trump and his team.
Foundation for Defense of Democracies' Bill Roggio told Fox News Digital, "Trump should not trust the Pakistanis. Pakistan was a perfidious ‘ally’ in Afghanistan, backing the Taliban while pretending to be our friends. Munir’s ties to the IRGC should be a massive red flag for the Trump admin."
Munir’s relationship with Trump dates back to the India–Pakistan crisis of May 2025. Munir played a key role in helping de-escalate the confrontation, and afterward Pakistan formally nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize, a move widely viewed by Pakistani analysts as encouraged by Munir.
Since then, Trump has repeatedly praised him, calling Munir an "exceptional man," a "great fighter" and "my favorite field marshal."
Pakistani officials and media reports say the two men now speak directly.
Pakistani analyst Raza Rumi told Fox News Digital that Munir’s appeal to Trump is not surprising.
"Trump has long shown a preference for strong, decisive leaders," Rumi said. "Munir fits that mold as a centralized authority figure who can deliver outcomes."
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