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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:24 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:24 pm to
Posted by SpqrTiger
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:25 pm to
This “15 Point Plan” looks like a huge pile of shite to me without a complete transformation of the current regime into something completely different.

Leave ANY part of it intact and you will be fighting the same war again as soon as they are strong enough to renew hostilities. The current regime in Iran will view defeat as a temporary evil that they just need to ride out until they can fight again.

Screw that. And no, I’m not turning over enriched uranium to a multinational organization either. That uranium belongs under the US’s control.

I hate wars just as much as anyone… but when you get into it, you FINISH it. No ceasefires, no diplomatic pipe dreams. End it with the IRGC and the theocracy they support dead and buried. Nothing less.
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:26 pm to


Posted by wdhalgren
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:27 pm to
The talking point bots have a ready-made response to that clip: "But Trump said just last summer that he obliterated Iran's nuclear capacity. This is all about Israel." And I guess that works for credulous people who accept it at face value. They've never learned that, when it comes to wars, face value is worthless. The military buildup that started in early 2026 had been in the works for months, almost certainly since last summer. Every minor detail was meticulously planned and set in motion in stages.

The media ridiculed Trump's "obliterated" comment when he made it last July, called it stupid, "Mission accomplished", Trump is an idiot, TACO, etc. In reality, they were being used as dupes to help disguise the fact that the plan was just starting. Iran bought it too; Trump was an idiot or he lacked the gumption to finish the job. Israel even bombed for a few days longer to sell the idea that they weren't satisfied with Trump's short excursion. Six months later the real military buildup began and Iran realized the clock had been steadily ticking since last summer.
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Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:27 pm to
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:35 pm to
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The source is untrustworthy so take with a grain of salt or two.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 7:54 pm to
Ok. Wipe out the IRCG.
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:19 pm to
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In the past couple hours, the Saudi Arabian Ministry of Defense has announced that they tracked and shot down 1 Iranian ballistic missile and 9 Iranian drones in the eastern region of the country, marking a significantly lower tempo of Iranian strikes on the nation since yesterday.
Posted by Stidham8
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:22 pm to
I think we all have an idea of how this 5 day period of negotiations will go:

IRGC doesn’t agree to the 15 points which gives the Trump administration political cover to continue the war.
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Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:34 pm to
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Israel Strikes Iran's Caspian Naval Base to Disrupt Russia Supply Route Last updated 21 minutes ago The Israeli Air Force destroyed dozens of targets at the naval base, including a corvette and shipyard, confirming the operation the next day as their first strikes in the Caspian region amid the war with Iran. Sources told the Wall Street Journal that the port had become vital for moving ammunition, drones, and artillery shells between Russia and Iran, with shipments tripling last year despite U.S. sanctions. Russia condemned the attack, warning of negative views on any conflict spillover, while Israel aimed to hinder military logistics without directly naming Moscow.


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Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 8:56 pm to
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:03 pm to
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Iranian demands for end to the war include the closure of all U.S. bases in the Gulf, guarantees of no further attacks, an end to Israeli strikes on Hezbollah, the lifting of all sanctions on Iran, war damage reparations, and no restrictions on its missile program. - WSJ
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:03 pm to
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JUST IN - Effective April 20, 2026, the U.S. Army is eliminating waiver requirements for a single conviction of possession of marijuana.


April. 20? 420? Seems a little too “On the nose”.
Posted by wfallstiger
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:05 pm to
Good thing BHO nor JEB aren't in office....just sayin'
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:06 pm to
That has to be fake
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:07 pm to
Control of Kharg Island would be quite a gift. Proper Persian tribute to our orange God Emperor.

Someday President for life, His Excellent Tallness, Baron Trump will give it back for further concessions, two third round draft picks and future considerations.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:07 pm to
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Iran announces its readiness to establish “a regional security and military union with its dear neighbors,” without the presence of the U.S. or Israel.

The Iranian Armed Forces Spokesman said in a statement in Arabic: “Dear Muslim brothers, we do not need a country that is thousands of kilometers away to ensure our region's security, nor do we need a country that views Islamic countries as cash cows. What good has America and its bases in the region brought you?”

The spokesman added: “We must learn from the mistakes of the past and the lack of supportive force which caused the Arabs' defeat in the 1967 and 1973 wars. We must unite to ensure our security and establish a comprehensive defense union.”
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:08 pm to
Posted by TroutGuy
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:10 pm to
If the report of Iranian extremist demands is accurate - and the WSJ is a pretty good source - we shouldn't waste any more time talking about negotiations. We're going to have to blow up power plants and the South Pars natural gas field so that, at the very least, the regime will have to spend so much money rebuilding its infrastructure that it won't have much money to spend on making mischief outside its borders.

But it's clear now that the people giving orders in Iran are the same guys who sent 10-year old boys to clear out minefields with their bodies during the Iran-Iraq war. You can't argue or negotiate with people who live in the 13th century.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:12 pm to
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US Central Command in the wake of the downing has only offered minimal disclosure, merely confirming the jet was struck, was forced into an emergency landing and that the pilot remains in "stable" condition.

But now Air & Space Forces Magazine has some further details, reporting that the US Air Force pilot was wounded by shrapnel during the attack:

A U.S. Air Force F-35A pilot suffered shrapnel wounds after their aircraft was damaged during a combat mission over Iran on March 19, people familiar with the matter told Air & Space Forces Magazine.

The aircraft was hit by ground fire. Though U.S. Central Command has not provided details, the aircraft was most likely damaged by a surface-to-air missile rather than by small-arms fire or another projectile, given the altitude at which the F-35 typically flies. The incident is under investigation, according to U.S. military officials.

It's believed to have been a likely surface-to-air missile given the high-altitude profile of the F-35, making small arms basically an impossibility unless for some reason it was flying very close to the earth and at a slow speed.

Meanwhile, Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) had released footage days ago claiming to show the strike, stating: "The fate of the fighter jet is unclear and under investigation, and the likelihood of its crash is very high."
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