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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:08 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:08 pm to hawgfaninc
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:10 pm to hawgfaninc
If the report of Iranian extremist demands is accurate - and the WSJ is a pretty good source - we shouldn't waste any more time talking about negotiations. We're going to have to blow up power plants and the South Pars natural gas field so that, at the very least, the regime will have to spend so much money rebuilding its infrastructure that it won't have much money to spend on making mischief outside its borders.
But it's clear now that the people giving orders in Iran are the same guys who sent 10-year old boys to clear out minefields with their bodies during the Iran-Iraq war. You can't argue or negotiate with people who live in the 13th century.
But it's clear now that the people giving orders in Iran are the same guys who sent 10-year old boys to clear out minefields with their bodies during the Iran-Iraq war. You can't argue or negotiate with people who live in the 13th century.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:12 pm to hawgfaninc
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US Central Command in the wake of the downing has only offered minimal disclosure, merely confirming the jet was struck, was forced into an emergency landing and that the pilot remains in "stable" condition.
But now Air & Space Forces Magazine has some further details, reporting that the US Air Force pilot was wounded by shrapnel during the attack:
A U.S. Air Force F-35A pilot suffered shrapnel wounds after their aircraft was damaged during a combat mission over Iran on March 19, people familiar with the matter told Air & Space Forces Magazine.
The aircraft was hit by ground fire. Though U.S. Central Command has not provided details, the aircraft was most likely damaged by a surface-to-air missile rather than by small-arms fire or another projectile, given the altitude at which the F-35 typically flies. The incident is under investigation, according to U.S. military officials.
It's believed to have been a likely surface-to-air missile given the high-altitude profile of the F-35, making small arms basically an impossibility unless for some reason it was flying very close to the earth and at a slow speed.
Meanwhile, Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) had released footage days ago claiming to show the strike, stating: "The fate of the fighter jet is unclear and under investigation, and the likelihood of its crash is very high."
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:12 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:15 pm to hawgfaninc
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Fog of war is thick
Sad the fog is thick even when a war isn’t happening
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:15 pm to hawgfaninc
It must drive the media crazy that they are so out of the loop. They just throw shite at the wall. They have no sources and no idea what is happening or what is going to happen.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:16 pm to hawgfaninc
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Per a report from the Wall Street Journal, Iran has responded to the Trump administration’s proposal for a ceasefire with demands that far surpass the characterization of maximalist. Iran has demanded the closure of all U.S. bases in the Gulf region, a new Strait of Hormuz framework, that would allow Iran to charge fees for vessels that transit, the end of all sanctions on Iran, an end to Israeli operations against Lebanese Hezbollah, and no discussion on Iran’s ballistic missile program. Such demands have been called ridiculous and unrealistic by U.S. officials.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:22 pm to hawgfaninc
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Will The Kid finally get his intercept?
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:22 pm to hawgfaninc
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A proposed U.S.-backed deal is already triggering internal tension inside the Islamic Republic
To understand why, look at what it would force the regime to give up:
- Nuclear enrichment, which they frame as an “inalienable right,” now facing outside limits & direct interference - seen as a humiliation and as being dictated by external powers
- Ballistic missile capabilities, their core deterrent, being capped - viewed as a direct security threat if they are undermined, monitored & limited
- Regional proxies being scaled back - effectively breaking the Shia crescent, tied to ambitions framed as “from Karbala to Jerusalem,” and a core pillar of their regional strategy as well as a key element of their broader deterrence posture that they view as non-negotiable
Each of these hits a different nerve: ideological pride, security, and regional power.
Taken together, they create intense internal pressure on the regime, on issues it views as non-negotiable and cannot afford to compromise on.
On top of that, Ghalibaf cannot afford to alienate the hardline base, while also competing with other power centers like IRGC commander Ahmad Vahidi, who is reportedly at odds with him.
These so-called ceasefire negotiations could deepen divisions at the top and spill over in ways that fracture regime unity.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:23 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:28 pm to hawgfaninc
Ive repeatedly said that loyalty in Iran is not to country or religion. It is to strength.
I think they continue to project strength and power because they know that their army crumbles when their leadership proves ineffective and weak.
The question is if the rest of the world has the stomach and stones to see this through. Cut the banking and income and watch the regime crack from the inside.
I think they continue to project strength and power because they know that their army crumbles when their leadership proves ineffective and weak.
The question is if the rest of the world has the stomach and stones to see this through. Cut the banking and income and watch the regime crack from the inside.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:28 pm to hawgfaninc
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Israel strikes a Russian-Iranian weapons smuggling route in the Caspian Sea for the first time, targeting a key supply line used to transfer drones, ammunition, and other military equipment.
The strike hit Iran’s Bandar Anzali port, damaging warships, a command center, and naval infrastructure tied to IRGC operations. The route has been critical for moving Shahed drones used by Russia in Ukraine and by Iran across the Gulf.
Officials say the goal was to disrupt smuggling and expose Iran’s lack of defenses in the Caspian, while signaling Israel’s ability to strike deeper and threaten key supply chains—including weapons and even food logistics.
Russia condemned the attack, warning against expanding the war, as analysts note Iran and Russia may shift operations but face short-term disruption.
-WSJ
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:38 pm to BayouBengal51
Russia isn’t going to do shite. They have all they can handle in Ukraine.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:42 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Russia isn’t going to do shite. They have all they can handle in Ukraine.
I agree. They are trying to out attrition Ukraine right now and won't pull men off the line to help what little is left of the Islamic Republic or the IRGC.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:43 pm to hawgfaninc
Figured this would be the case. Time to finish the regime. They will never negotiate. Japan part II. We’ll have to make them surrender.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:45 pm to BayouBengal51
The "fog of war" has been ramped up times 1000 over the last day or two it seems like. Trump is working an angle, that much is clear. What is unclear is what he's attempting with the outcome here - seems like he's trying to make a show of attempting to negotiate while knowing it won't go anywhere.
It also has a bonus of sewing distrust and paranoia amongst the IRGC holdouts, but I think that's just a sideshow and not the real purpose.
It's all extremely confusing, and if there's some ultimate underlying goal here that is being obfuscated by the confusion then it's genius. If it's just Trump trying to appease Americans and the markets by faking "peace talks" then it'll lead to his and Republicans' downfall domestically in elections.
Trump, to this point, has always seemed to pull a rabbit out of his arse and be one step ahead of his detractors even when he's doubted the most, so I'm thinking he has some sort of trick up his sleeve here
He and Bibi have both been messaging to the Iranian population that they'll be told when it's "go time" to take to the streets and take their country back. I think it's possible he's buying time to get assets in place to maybe do something like take the power grid down without doing physical kinetic damage, i.e. military engineers and an MEU on the ground to be there when the "go" signal is given to the populace.
Maybe not this exact scenario, but he's playing it like he has this sort of ace up his sleeve he's trying to keep misdirected
It also has a bonus of sewing distrust and paranoia amongst the IRGC holdouts, but I think that's just a sideshow and not the real purpose.
It's all extremely confusing, and if there's some ultimate underlying goal here that is being obfuscated by the confusion then it's genius. If it's just Trump trying to appease Americans and the markets by faking "peace talks" then it'll lead to his and Republicans' downfall domestically in elections.
Trump, to this point, has always seemed to pull a rabbit out of his arse and be one step ahead of his detractors even when he's doubted the most, so I'm thinking he has some sort of trick up his sleeve here
He and Bibi have both been messaging to the Iranian population that they'll be told when it's "go time" to take to the streets and take their country back. I think it's possible he's buying time to get assets in place to maybe do something like take the power grid down without doing physical kinetic damage, i.e. military engineers and an MEU on the ground to be there when the "go" signal is given to the populace.
Maybe not this exact scenario, but he's playing it like he has this sort of ace up his sleeve he's trying to keep misdirected
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:46 pm to Stidham8
Can't allow the Mullahs nor the IRGC remain ---- will be in the spot later
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:52 pm to hawgfaninc
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JUST IN:
B-52 bombers spotted over Iran as strikes reportedly hit Alborz Industrial City in Qazvin, a hub tied to regime-linked military production.
Major industrial facilities targeted, with claims Iran’s military-industrial infrastructure is facing destruction.
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Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:52 pm to RazorBroncs
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Trump is working an angle, that much is clea
Multiple angles.
He’s giving them terms he know they won’t accept. Except maybe if one of them is able to consolidate power just to save their own skin.
At the same time he’s delaying as pieces move. Pieces that could be to leverage tension for negotiation or could be part of the war plan.
There is chatter about karg. Chatter about negotiations. It’s classic trump - like a magician who throws so much out there it’s hard to see how the trick was done.
Hope it works. Just want these guys gone and a more stable world afterward.
Posted on 3/24/26 at 9:52 pm to hawgfaninc
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