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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:22 am to
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:22 am to
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Interestingly enough, I listened to a podcast earlier this morning about the history of Qatar and Al Jazeera. Al Jazeera has a bias toward Iran as a check against the Saudis who have tried to bully Qatar for decades.


Qatar has used its wealth to rival Saudi Arabia's influence in the Mooselimb world Libya post Qaddafi was a Saudi vs Qatar proxy war before descending into a couple hundred Bloods and Crips sort of battleground. Qatar allied with Iran. After Shell built Pearl GTL complex in Qatar, they lost all contracts and JV's in Saudi Arabia, where it had operated for decades.

FTR, a client had $20 billion sitting in an account from the Bank of Qatar, for purchase of oilfields and to build a refinery in Libya post Qaddafi. It never settled down enough to access the money sitting in the Paris branch.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 11:25 am
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
2498 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:42 am to
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Of course they are. It’s just a question as to scale and quality. And with shipping closed it would be either what can come in from a plane from china ir what Russia can free up come their own war.

By no means would it come close to making up what they have already lost or shot/fired.


Why does it have to be China or Russia? Why not Pakistan or Afghanistan? They both share borders with Iran (and each other).


This is why we should have destroyed the roads and train tracks coming into Iran. At least the bridges should have been taken out.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27347 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 11:49 am to
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Isn't that true of all Muslims?


Yes. If they actually follow their faith. That is why it is illegal to allow Muslims to immigrate to the USA. It is a shame that we do not follow the law.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109661 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:07 pm to
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They want us dead and that is enough right there.


Isn't that true of all Muslims?


They will also accept us as slaves.
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8849 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:18 pm to
Russia can't even supply their own troops. That is why they are losing ground to Ukraine. China may be supplying components and maybe a small amout of arms but do you think they want to face sanctions and tariffs from the U.S.? The people who claim Iran is stongers todays are idiots.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25926 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:35 pm to
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Why is it not possible to think Russia and China are resupplying them weapons covertly? if you think this isnt happening your really naive.


Show me the proof?
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2309 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 1:40 pm to
Maybe not finished weapons but because their drones and missiles use Chinese and Russian technology its not that crazy to think that parts for production are currently being sent covertly. Also Iran doesn't fully produce its own air defense systems relying on the S-300, S-400, and the TOR-M1.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97563 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 3:00 pm to
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I'm really surprised. I thought he would actually follow through with his words not just end up making himself look silly


Do we still have “trust the plan” bros in this thread? The average intellect in this thread is far higher than the other threads.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13434 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 3:45 pm to
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those that have it generally have it for a reason.......Iranian propaganda

My point exactly.
Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
7494 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 3:46 pm to
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Maybe not finished weapons but because their drones and missiles use Chinese and Russian technology its not that crazy to think that parts for production are currently being sent covertly. Also Iran doesn't fully produce its own air defense systems relying on the S-300, S-400, and the TOR-M1.


Another angle to Trump's hesitancy to escalate militarily could be that the rumors around Chinese technology being used to down the F-15 are accurate and there are obviously deeper implications around that.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
9553 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10461 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:07 pm to
WSJ with a pretty bleak assessment of Iran’s control. Yesterday they easily got Trump to stop Israel’s attack on Hezbollah terrorists.

Love Trump, but this has become an embarrassment.

WSJ
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
9553 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:09 pm to
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WSJ with a pretty bleak assessment of Iran’s control. Yesterday they easily got Trump to stop Israel’s attack on Hezbollah terrorists.


WSJ knows nothing...Trump is seeking $10 billion in damages for defamation from that fake news rag.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5484 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:26 pm to
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Do we still have “trust the plan” bros in this thread?


What we have is a bunch of people who say they know the plan, most of whom are ready to say it's a failure because their stated version of the plan has failed. Many of them never intended to say anything else because they want it to be a failure. There are plenty of people in the US who will openly admit to that, but also many who won't admit it because the propaganda works better when they claim to be objective.

I don't know the plan, but I think I know some of the goals and they aren't completed yet. But Iran's ability to act as China's bully, in the Middle East and as far afield as South America, has been degraded for a few years. I assume that right now strategies are being adapted as assessments, political, economic and military, are being done to determine how to proceed from here.

China is flexing their muscle inside US borders too, using very effective propaganda and lots of money, so we'll see if America has enough brains and backbone left to mount serious resistance to the CCP's global aspirations. I'd love to say I'm confident, but a quick assessment of the 535 members of Congress won't allow that.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 5:03 pm
Posted by TroutGuy
Member since Mar 2026
412 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:33 pm to
I'm just hoping the post-midterms Trump shows resolve towards Iran. I've given up on him doing so before then.
This post was edited on 6/2/26 at 4:35 pm
Posted by moontigr
Dark Side of the Moon
Member since Nov 2020
7718 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:46 pm to
At this point, I'm thinking that we're not going to bomb Iran anymore. Iran successfully called his bluff. Trump seems desperate to find another way out, trying to convince Americans that peace talks are ongoing when it's obvious that the IRGC isn't interested. It'll be interesting to see how he spins it.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11203 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:48 pm to
do you drink bourbon at mid day
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
9553 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:50 pm to
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At this point, I'm thinking that we're not going to bomb Iran anymore. Iran successfully called his bluff. Trump seems desperate to find another way out, trying to convince Americans that peace talks are ongoing when it's obvious that the IRGC isn't interested.


No one calls Trumps bluff...why bomb them if he can rid iran of all the terrorists and put things in order for the iranian/persian people?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
38721 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:54 pm to
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do you drink bourbon at mid day


A nice neat bourbon with lunch hits the spot every once in a while….
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20446 posts
Posted on 6/2/26 at 4:59 pm to
Another member of the pink dildo brigade
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