re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Russia can't even supply their own troops. That is why they are losing ground to Ukraine. China may be supplying components and maybe a small amout of arms but do you think they want to face sanctions and tariffs from the U.S.? The people who claim Iran is stongers todays are idiots.

Maybe not finished weapons but because their drones and missiles use Chinese and Russian technology its not that crazy to think that parts for production are currently being sent covertly. Also Iran doesn't fully produce its own air defense systems relying on the S-300, S-400, and the TOR-M1.

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those that have it generally have it for a reason.......Iranian propaganda

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My point exactly.

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WSJ with a pretty bleak assessment of Iran’s control. Yesterday they easily got Trump to stop Israel’s attack on Hezbollah terrorists.

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WSJ knows nothing...Trump is seeking $10 billion in damages for defamation from that fake news rag.

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Do we still have “trust the plan” bros in this thread?

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What we have is a bunch of people who say they know the plan, most of whom are ready to say it's a failure because their stated version of the plan has failed. Many of them never intended to say anything else because they want it to be a failure. There are plenty of people in the US who will openly admit to that, but also many who won't admit it because the propaganda works better when they claim to be objective.

I don't know the plan, but I think I know some of the goals and they aren't completed yet. But Iran's ability to act as China's bully, in the Middle East and as far afield as South America, has been degraded for a few years. I assume that right now strategies are being adapted as assessments, political, economic and military, are being done to determine how to proceed from here.

China is flexing their muscle inside US borders too, using very effective propaganda and lots of money, so we'll see if America has enough brains and backbone left to mount serious resistance to the CCP's global aspirations. I'd love to say I'm confident, but a quick assessment of the 535 members of Congress won't allow that.

At this point, I'm thinking that we're not going to bomb Iran anymore. Iran successfully called his bluff. Trump seems desperate to find another way out, trying to convince Americans that peace talks are ongoing when it's obvious that the IRGC isn't interested. It'll be interesting to see how he spins it.

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At this point, I'm thinking that we're not going to bomb Iran anymore. Iran successfully called his bluff. Trump seems desperate to find another way out, trying to convince Americans that peace talks are ongoing when it's obvious that the IRGC isn't interested.

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No one calls Trumps bluff...why bomb them if he can rid iran of all the terrorists and put things in order for the iranian/persian people?

Another member of the pink dildo brigade

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Tuesday that Iran has mined “large segments” of the Strait of Hormuz, indicating that explosives in the strategic sea lane are more widespread than previoulsy acknowledged.

“They’re firing on commercial ships and they’ve mined large segments of Hormuz — international waters,” Rubio told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, in his first appearance before Congress since the U.S. and Israel launched the war against Iran on Feb. 28.

Iran must agree in any deal with the U.S. that it will not charge a toll to transit Hormuz, will not fire on commercial ships and will help remove any mines it has laid in the strait, the Secretary of State said.

“What they’re doing is unlawful and illegal,” Rubio told the Senate.

Hormuz is a crucial chokepoint for the global energy market, with about 20% of global oil supplies passing through the sea lane before war. Oil tanker traffic through the strait has plunged due to threats from Iran, triggering the the largest supply disruption in history.

President Donald Trump cast doubt early in the war that Iran was deploying mines. In a Truth Social post on March 10, he warned Iran that if it has deployed mines in the Hormuz Strait, they were to be removed immediately.

The president said on April 23 that he ordered the U.S. Navy to “shoot and kill” any boat that was deploying mines in the strait. He said U.S. mine sweepers were “clearing the Strait” at an accelerated tempo.

But Iran’s mines still pose a major challenge to the resumption of large scale commercial traffic more than a month after Trump said the US. was clearing the explosives. The president demanded Friday that Iran “complete the immediate removal and/or detonation of any mines” that the U.S. has not already removed.

It is still unclear how many mines are in Hormuz and where they are located in the sea lane, said Jack Kennedy, head of Middle East country risk at S&P Global Market Intelligence. Traffic through Hormuz is unlikely to return to prewar levels until a solid demining effort has taken place, Kennedy said.

The White House did not respond to a question about how many mines are believed to remain in Hormuz. The Pentagon has destroyed numerous mines and over 40 minelaying vessels, a White House official told CNBC.

“The President has been clear that these are short-term, temporary disruptions,” the official said.

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Rubio-Iran has mined large parts of SOH CNBC