re: NYT - Tracking the Suspect in the Fatal Kenosha Shootings

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Why are you hung up on that?

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Maybe it is simply about the truth and not a narrative. Jo Jo was obviously the aggressor and got shot because he lunged at the kid.

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but there are stills and video that show something burning

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I would like to see this, because I don't see it any of the videos I have seen.

There was a second video angle posted yesterday where you could see what appeared to be fire. Also, these stills were posted on Twitter showing what, again, appears to be flames. I'm not trying to start a pissing match here, but a few posters seem to be hissing about this as if it's been debunked, but I've seen nothing that debunks it. It's still very much up for debate. I'll add that I agree it appeared to be in a bag, but I'll point out that photos from the first nights of protests showed quite a few improvised fire bombs.

I think you also have to ask yourself why a big kid like that packing an ar was running from a half human/half shrimp armed with a rouses bag.

I posted this in another thread but I'll add it in here since it's relevant.

So the NYT endeavored to make a timeline of the events as well, and while there is some obvious bias in the article, they also found something that I haven't seen mentioned.

Here's a snippet of the article plus the image.



Here's a larger look at the image.



Based on the NYT timeline, that mystery handgun fired before Kyle turned or fired. So self defense comes strongly into play. Kyle is already running from pursuers when he hears shots, possibly aimed at him, possibly not, he turns and sees a guy rushing him.

He fires, killing Rosenbaum. It's worth pointing out too that the handgun fire was possibly directed at him (not in the air like NYT suggests) and if so, it's entirely possible the handgun shooter hit Rosenbaum, not Kyle.

That's something ballistics will hopefully tell us. I know some people in threads here have suggested Rosenbaum's injury wasn't consistent with the caliber Kyle was shooting but I don't know enough to prove or disprove that.

In an even crazier possibility, given the proximity of all the events as they unfolded, it's entirely possible that the shooter in this frame is Mr Medic, who shortly after gets his arm shot when he threatens Kyle on the ground. Again, that's something ballistics will tell us far better than any dark video or stills.

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include highlighting that the medic is carrying a pistol.

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You mean the "medic" who also has a felony charge and should not be in possession of a weapon to begin with? That "medic"? The "Medic" should be charged with unlawful possession of a firearm, to go along with his shot up arm.

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He fires, killing Rosenbaum. It's worth pointing out too that the handgun fire was possibly directed at him (not in the air like NYT suggests) and if so, it's entirely possible the handgun shooter hit Rosenbaum, not Kyle

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That would be a hell of a shot.

Someone said it was his bag from being just released from jail.



I don’t see a Molotov cocktail either.

Here is a great twitter thread.

Enjoy

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You can't say that with any certainty.

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I can say it with 100% certainty. I am not snapping. Just disagreeing with you.

I don't think it was a "Molotov cocktail" per se. I think if it was, in fact, on fire, it's likely something in a bag that was lit. Its clearly in a bag and slung at KR. There were pics of protesters using plastic bottles, fireworks, and other crude incendiary devices, so lots of that going around.

It's a good debate.