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re: NYT - Tracking the Suspect in the Fatal Kenosha Shootings

Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:32 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:32 pm to
Not sure. You seem willing to die there.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:34 pm to
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Not sure. You seem willing to die there.
Not at all. I just don't see the utility in acting like it's something it wasn't. It's damning enough without making shite up like antifa.

This video shows the bald dude set the bag on the ground. It doesn't seem to make any noise. When he picks up it, you can actually see colored labels through it - sweet tarts?

:53ish
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:35 pm to
I don’t know what Jojo Ninja threw tbh.

But I do know Jojo Ninja threw something and was being the aggressor to young Rittenhouse.

This article was not fair or balanced. It was slanted towards the peaceful protestors advantage by a lot.
This post was edited on 8/27/20 at 3:36 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47620 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:35 pm to
The only people dying on a hill are those trying to say difinitively that its not on fire, when several stills and videos posted in this thread leave that open for debate. This hasn't been settled by any authorities, so you come off like an a-hole by being so dismissive about it. The rest of us are debating the unknown, so if you are not willing to debate, frick off.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:35 pm to
So you’re saying bald dude threw a bag of miscellaneous candy at the kid with the gun.

I mean, I guess it’s possible.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47620 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:37 pm to
This big teenager with a loaded ar15 was running terrified from a human shrimp armed with a grocery bag?

Interesting.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:39 pm to
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So what you're saying is you don't actually know what it was? As in, you have no idea whether it was or not, just that it didn't look like what you would expect a molotov cocktail to look like?
it was a plastic bag, not sure what was in the plastic bag
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47620 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:42 pm to
I agree that it was a bag. I think the back and forth is whether it was burning or not.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:45 pm to
Slowed down video makes it clear the skateboarder grabbed the rifle, attempted rip it away toward his chest, and that is when the gun discharged.

This post was edited on 8/27/20 at 3:50 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:46 pm to
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So you’re saying bald dude threw a bag of miscellaneous candy at the kid with the gun.

I mean, I guess it’s possible.
I don't know what it was. It wasn't a Molotov Cocktail. And whatever it was was lame.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:47 pm to
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And whatever it was was lame.


Don't bring a plastic bag to a gunfight maybe. Are you actually defending this piece of trash? I haven't read the thread.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:47 pm to
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This big teenager with a loaded ar15 was running terrified from a human shrimp armed with a grocery bag?

Interesting.
He likely didn't even know about that bag. He was sprinting away from people chasing him. People who evidently were immune from retribution when shouting the N-word in a crowd of blacks. I'd have run too.

No part of this is to defend the dead at all. frick those fricks. I just don't see why we have to make up that it was something it wasn't. It was plenty scary enough without that.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:48 pm to
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So you’re saying bald dude threw a bag of miscellaneous candy at the kid with the gun.
It was a flower bouquet. To see if he was the next person to get married.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:48 pm to
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Don't bring a plastic bag to a gunfight maybe. Are you actually defending this piece of trash? I haven't read the thread.
Of course not. This stupid idiot screamed the n-word at this kid and then chased after him, despite the fact that he had a rifle. I have no doubt that the dead was up to all manner of shitty shite in the minutes/hours(weeks/months/years) preceding this incident.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:49 pm to
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Of course not. This stupid idiot screamed the n-word at this kid and then chased after him, despite the fact that he had a rifle. I have no doubt that the dead was up to all manner of shitty shite in the minutes/hours(weeks/months/years) preceding this incident.



Just making sure, carry on
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:50 pm to
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It was a flower bouquet. To see if he was the next person to get married.
Just threatening and chasing was enough. Why must we also pretend he had a MC?
Posted by Logician
Grinning Colonizer
Member since Jul 2013
4953 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:50 pm to
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So what you're saying is you don't actually know what it was?
no idea what was in it, but it wasn't a molotov cocktail. that's the point i'm making.

it was a bag. it was seen in videos before and after. it didn't explode. it wasn't all burnt and charred after. it wasn't in a bottle. it wasn't a molotov cocktail.

quote:

As in, you have no idea whether it was or not, just that it didn't look like what you would expect a molotov cocktail to look like?
i know what they look like, and this wasn't that.

quote:

Okay


okay
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47620 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:51 pm to
No one is making anything up, ffs. There has been no official ruling on this. There are several stills and a video angle where the bag appears to be on fire. That what we are debating.

Your gaslighting changes nothing.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46184 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:51 pm to
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You only get like 3-5 views of NYT before they block you, so paywall for me as well



Clear your cookies, or switch to another browser.

I use Edge for exactly this, set to delete all cookies when I close the browser.

Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39873 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 3:53 pm to
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No one is making anything up, ffs. There has been no official ruling on this. There are several stills and a video angle where the bag appears to be on fire. That what we are debating.

Your gaslighting changes nothing.
You're making it up. Just look at Logician's most recent post. There is no evidence whatsoever (including the supposed angle of the bag on fire) supporting at any level the thesis that the dead was carrying a Molotov Cocktail.
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