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NPR: Why The South Is Decades Ahead Of The West In Wildfire Prevention
Posted on 9/1/21 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 9/1/21 at 2:59 pm
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I guess since Trump isn't in office, we're allowed to talk about this now.
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In early May, flames began to spread through a pine forest, consuming a dense carpet of leaves and underbrush. The burn was the definition of a "good fire," intentionally ignited to clear vegetation that could fuel future infernos.
It happened in the state leading the nation in controlled burns: Florida.
As Western states contend with increasingly catastrophic wildfires, some are looking to the Southeastern U.S., where prescribed fire is widespread thanks to policies put in place decades ago. From 1998 to 2018, 70% of all controlled burning in the country was in the Southeast.
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Now, several Western states are moving to adopt the fire policies pioneered by Florida and other Southern states as a hedge against the future. They include training problems for burn leaders and providing liability protection for them. The bigger challenge is changing the culture around fire, so that residents know that tolerating a little smoke from good fires can help stop the destructive blazes that cloud the air for weeks.
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About half of California is privately owned, and landowners have had little support from public agencies to conduct burns on their property. Permits from firefighting agencies and air quality regulators can be cumbersome to secure.
I guess since Trump isn't in office, we're allowed to talk about this now.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
They do it in Arkansas as well.
Forests look amazing the following year, and are much more useable for things like hiking/camping/hunting
Forests look amazing the following year, and are much more useable for things like hiking/camping/hunting
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why The South Is Decades Ahead Of The West In Wildfire Prevention
More rain for starters
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Permits from firefighting agencies and air quality regulators can be cumbersome to secure.
Government trying to fix problems created by government.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:NO way! But we all know it's true. We don't have the winds typically when we do have fires but they are finally admitting they screwed up. My nephew just had to leave his park service location on Tahoe because the fires.
NPR
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yeah but we’re catching up quickly with all of the wildfires going on. So there!
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:06 pm to Figgy
We also harvest some of the trees in the forests down south and replant them, thinning out the forest. I hunt leased timber company land. In CA clown world the tree huggers go nuts if you talk about cutting down any of their precious trees.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
Thanks California
This is what my Valley is supposed to look like.

This is what my Valley is supposed to look like.

Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:11 pm to Purple Spoon
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Permits from firefighting agencies and air quality regulators can be cumbersome to secure.
Government trying to fix problems created by government.
Makes me want to vomit.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:13 pm to deltaland
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More rain for starters
Wrong. First management has more to do with what’s happening in the west than rainfall or lack there of.
Yes it’s dry but the fuel load from decades of mismanagement is the primary reason for “super fires”.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:15 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Yes it’s dry but the fuel load from decades of mismanagement is the primary reason for “super fires”.
Yep, no Fire breaks or access Roads will do that.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:15 pm to Chazreinhold
That's a great view. Where you at?
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:16 pm to TRUERockyTop
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That's a great view. Where you at?
Cache Valley Utah, Bout 80 Miles north of Salt Lake City.
The Vols whipped our asses in 2014.
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 9/1/21 at 3:51 pm to Chazreinhold
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Yep, no Fire breaks or access Roads will do that.
It is worse out west. Not only those things are missing, there is an over abundance of dead undergrowth, standing dead trees due to the beetles, and deadfalls are never cleaned up.
The USDA and environmentalists are squarely to blame for fires out west.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 4:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
Remember when Trump talked about underbrush clearing and controlled burns as a means of mitigating wild fires and the media laughed in his face?
Posted on 9/1/21 at 4:18 pm to Chazreinhold
I hear you. That’s basically every single summer here in Fresno. It’s absolutely horrible. Even without these forest fires there is so much pollution that originates in China and carries across the Pacific and then mixes with the damn Bay Area pollution only to settle here in the Valley. I’m 30 minutes from the Sierra Nevada range, an hour away from the south entrance to Yosemite. Every single year the mountains disappear behind a haze. It’s just recently that haze has smelled like a campfire. The air quality is a killer and it’s made worse by our summer heat. You’re basically not doing anything outside after 8:30am until 8:30pm at best.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 4:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
The commies in the west blame it on climate change/humans directly responsible and then pocket those forestry funds. The south realizes there is a system/SCIENCE to preventing them and get to business rather than embezzling the money meant for forest management.
Posted on 9/1/21 at 4:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
Sequoia trees need fire for their cones to open and seed the forest. The reason they were not logged out is because the wood is brittle as could be as lumber
Posted on 9/1/21 at 5:00 pm to deltaland
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More rain for starters
Lol we had droughts and water bans when i lived in georgia, the man made lakes would dry up.
Try again.
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