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Now that this debt ceiling agreement has passed, can Gaetz get McCarthy removed as SOH?
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:11 am
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:11 am
This debt ceiling (and some of the individual concessions within the agreement) directly violate the promises KM made to Gaetz, et al in the negotiations for SOH. The hammer Gaetz negotiated was an easy procedural removal process, so now, questions are raised:
1. Will Gaetz (or someone in his Patriot coalition) file to remove KM as SOH?
2. Can that coalition get the support to remove KM as SOH?
3. If that coalition is unwilling to remove KM, what are the long-term effects?
4. If the coalition is willing, but unable, to remove KM, what are the long-term effects?
I know Gaetz got McCarthy's nuts in a vice on paper, but if he can't come through with replacing KM then his whole coalition may be dead within a year. This would show the lack of power they have and may neuter them to even further fringes of the Congressional power structure.
1. Will Gaetz (or someone in his Patriot coalition) file to remove KM as SOH?
2. Can that coalition get the support to remove KM as SOH?
3. If that coalition is unwilling to remove KM, what are the long-term effects?
4. If the coalition is willing, but unable, to remove KM, what are the long-term effects?
I know Gaetz got McCarthy's nuts in a vice on paper, but if he can't come through with replacing KM then his whole coalition may be dead within a year. This would show the lack of power they have and may neuter them to even further fringes of the Congressional power structure.
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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Now that this debt ceiling agreement has passed, can Gaetz get McCarthy removed as SOH?
You said the America First wing of the party was dead. Now, you want it to lead an effort to remove the establishment Speaker?
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:17 am to moneyg
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Now, you want it to lead an effort to remove the establishment Speaker?
Where did I say what I want?
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You said the America First wing of the party was dead.
If Gaetz can't get KM removed, it kind of is.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:18 am to moneyg
mtg and jim jordan voted for the bill. mccarthy is safe for now.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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Where did I say what I want?
So, you want McCarthy to stay as speaker?
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:21 am to moneyg
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So, you want McCarthy to stay as speaker?
What I want is irrelevant to this thread.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
Heard that Bannon is endorsing Lumer to primary MTG: Loomer is moving into MTG's District. That will be interesting.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:23 am to SlowFlowPro
I don't love McCarthy but I dont think he's done that bad of a job. If we remove the speaker now, how much momentum do we lose going into 2024?
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:23 am to SlowFlowPro
Not happening
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:25 am to RCDfan1950
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Heard that Bannon is endorsing Lumer to primary MTG: Loomer is moving into MTG's District. That will be interesting.
In terms of an actual race it won't be remotely interesting. Loomer is a certifiable nutjob that won't get close to getting elected
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:26 am to moneyg
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So, you want McCarthy to stay as speaker?
The groomer still thinks they're working for us.
Everyone knew how this would end up and, nothing will change.
On going theater.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:26 am to RCDfan1950
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Heard that Bannon is endorsing Lumer to primary MTG: Loomer is moving into MTG's District. That will be interesting.
Can't wait to hear Loomer's conspiracy theories as to why she lost another one in embarrassing fashion
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:26 am to FATBOY TIGER
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The groomer still thinks they're working for us.
What and what?
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Everyone knew how this would end up and, nothing will change.
On going theater.
This was NOT the sentiment when Gaetz hijacked the SOH process. What changed?
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:28 am to SlowFlowPro
He has to go through Jordan. If he can get him on board then McCarthy is gone, otherwise he’ll need to be a menace to McCarthy.. it’s a dangerous game for both but if Gaetz wants to make his move.. the next couple weeks are the time
McCarthy broke his public word to this group and the press is going to award this win to Biden so I just don’t see how mccarthy can lead a collective of groups affectively anymore.. he chose the weak path.
McCarthy broke his public word to this group and the press is going to award this win to Biden so I just don’t see how mccarthy can lead a collective of groups affectively anymore.. he chose the weak path.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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Now that this debt ceiling agreement has passed, can Gaetz get McCarthy removed as SOH?
The most corrupt incompetent administration ever and your worried about removing the SOH?
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:31 am to Fun Bunch
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Loomer is a certifiable nutjob that won't get close to getting elected
Interestingly enough, the exact same thing was said about MTG.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:33 am to TigerAxeOK
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Interestingly enough, the exact same thing was said about MTG.
Have you ever heard of a sliding scale?
MTG is an idiot more than a nutjob, but she played up to her Patriot base with some craziness, especially at first, and she wasn't smart enough to know the right buttons. This made her look more crazy than stupid, but the reality is it's stupidity and parroting crazy people more than being actually crazy. She has gotten better, so she's still an idiot but is less embarrassing (also is less embraced by Patriots, accordingly).
Loomer is smart but actually crazy. TOTALLY different ballgame.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:34 am to mikeytig
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The most corrupt incompetent administration ever and your worried about removing the SOH?
What?
You think typing out a thread on here calling Biden Brandon and having a good melt will do something?
This is a political discussion forum. I'm trying to have an actual discussion about politics.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:35 am to SlowFlowPro
They won’t do shite
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
The uniparty is too strong
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